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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Nestor,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Here is the SEA feedback on this MOSSG report.  There are many issues, but to boil them down into just a few major themes, it looks like this:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">      
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">They ignore IOAG Cat #1 and Cat #2.  If there is a relationship it is unstated. 
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">      
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">They ignore all of the underlying CCSDS and Internet standards that provide the essential communications fabric that any applications services require.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">They state that this is all about interoperability, but then do not tie down most of the interfaces, application protocols, data objects, or communications layers in a way where
 that could be achieved.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">They take random pot-shots at IOAG Cat#2 and internetworking, such as stating (on pg 13): "</span><span style="color:#0070C0">They do not require the overall, global management
 of a common resource like the Solar System Internetwork in Service Catalog #2. Thus, a global Service Management Framework is not required a priori. Service management is required for MO services, however, and is supported via the Interoperability Framework.
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">"  In fact, what they do appear to require is the "<b><i>global framework that is the Interoperability Framework</i></b>", but that  is not defined in any clear set of interoperable specs.  As this is
 worded there is no one set of "framework" specs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">They do not clearly define the set of information / data objects that must appear at any set of application level interfaces.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Feel free to use this as you see fit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Regards, Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">CESG <cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org> on behalf of Nestor Peccia <Nestor.Peccia@esa.int><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, August 22, 2016 at 3:00 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[CESG] MOSSG Report<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">Dear all</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">FYI and review</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">I will add a point on the agenda of  the next CESG webex</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">If it is possible, your views are more than welcome (preferqbly prior to the 7th Sept)</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">ciao</span> <br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">\nestor</span> <br>
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