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Hi Keith,</div>
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I agree that we need some tie to specific frequencies. In the frequency band table that I adopted from the IEEE the bands are separated along exact fraequencies, such as 8 Ghz – 12 GHZ. This table was in the spredsheet I sent out, but I did not repeat it
in the email itself. It appears that there are separate, and somewhat different, identifiers in use in the EU, NATO, ECM, ITU, and EIA / IEC waveguide communities. I propose that we adopt one, the IEEE, and stick to it. This is not to suggest that there
aren’t other, far more precise and carefully identified frequency bands that the SFCG and ITU care about, but those more crisp distinctions do not really help us in this situation.</div>
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That said, this still leaves us with potentially a large number of “bands”, much more than is useful for our purposes. And that is why I proposed that we create these “Band Bins”. I’ve augmented those proposed Band Bins, below, with the frequencies that they
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<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Purely based on pragmatic considerations I would suggest that we could create “Band Bins” that looked like this:</span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 10pt;">·<span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"></span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Everything below S-Band (HF, VHF, UHF, L)
<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span><b><font color="#ff0000">0-2 GHz</font></b></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;">·<span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"></span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">S-Band & C-Band <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;">·<span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"></span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">X-Band <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">
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<span style="font-size: 10pt;">·<span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"></span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">K-Band (Ku, K, Ka)<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in; text-indent: -0.25in;"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Regards, Peter</font></p>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Keith Scott <<a href="mailto:kscott@mitre.org">kscott@mitre.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:46 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Peter Shames <<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>, Gian Paolo Calzolari <<a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int">Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</a>>, CCSDS Engineering Steering
Group - CESG Exec <<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>"SANA Steering Group (SSG)" <<a href="mailto:ssg@mailman.ccsds.org">ssg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>RE: [SSG] [CESG] ?Band Bins? for SCID assignments<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I would suggest that there be SOME mapping of the band bin edges to specific (numerical) frequencies, whether it’s direct or whether CCSDS defines
or references a specific standard of set of standards for where that bins are.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Alternately, and FAR more complicated, a SCID could be associated with some filter (energy outside that filter < XXXdbM). That’s probably much more
trouble than it’s worth, and the bins seem better to me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> --keith<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
<a href="mailto:cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a> [<a href="mailto:cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">mailto:cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Shames, Peter M (312B)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 04, 2015 11:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int">Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</a>; CCSDS CESG -- <<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> SANA Steering Group (SSG) <<a href="mailto:ssg@mailman.ccsds.org">ssg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [SSG] [CESG] ?Band Bins? for SCID assignments<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Here is the screen shot attachment of the IOAG RF Assets registry,
<a href="http://sanaregistry.org/r/rf_assets/rf_assets.html">http://sanaregistry.org/r/rf_assets/rf_assets.html</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><<a href="mailto:ssg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">ssg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>> on behalf of Gian Paolo Calzolari <<a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int">Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 6:29 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"SANA Steering Group (SSG)" <<a href="mailto:ssg@mailman.ccsds.org">ssg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[SSG] [CESG] ?Band Bins? for SCID assignments<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">Peter,</span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><br>
</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;"> with respect to your proposal below, if imit will be implemented I do recommend keeping consistency with the headers of the IOAG RF assets table (to be modified I think)
where the frequency bands are explicity addressed with numbers.</span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Purely based on pragmatic considerations I would suggest that we could create “Band Bins” that looked like this:</span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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(Ku, K, Ka)</span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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