[CESG] CESG-P-2023-06-005 Approval to publish CCSDS 142.10-O-1, Reed-Solomon Product Code for Optical Communication (Orange Book, Issue 1)

CCSDS Secretariat thomas.gannett at tgannett.net
Wed Aug 30 18:08:58 UTC 2023


Dear CESG Members,

Conditions for approval of CCSDS 142.10-O-1, Reed-Solomon Product Code for Optical Communication (Orange Book, Issue 1) have been disposed to the satisfaction of the AD(s) who voted to approve with conditions. The Secretariat will now proceed with CMC polling to authorize publication.
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From:	Tomaso.deCola at dlr.de
Sent:	Wednesday, August 30, 2023 5:55 AM
To:	bernard.l.edwards at nasa.gov
Cc:	jon.hamkins at jpl.nasa.gov; Clemens.Heese at esa.int; 
thomas.gannett at tgannett.net; lena.e.braatz at nasa.gov; 
araki.tomohiro at jaxa.jp
Subject:	AW: CESG-P-2023-06-005 Approval to publish CCSDS 142.10-O-1, Reed-
Solomon Product Code for Optical Communication (Orange Book, Issue 1)

Categories:	Poll Condition Closure

Hi Bernie,

just checked the proposed modifications, which are ok for me. As such, my requests can be considered 
successfully fulfilled.

Regards,

Tomaso

From:	Barkley, Erik J (US 3970) <erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov>
Sent:	Friday, August 25, 2023 11:37 AM
To:	?????; Edwards, Bernard L. (GSFC-5600)
Cc:	Hamkins, Jon (US 3300); Thomas Gannett; Braatz, Lena E. (HQ-
DA000)[BOOZ ALLEN HAMILTON]; Clemens.Heese at esa.int; 
Hiroaki.Yamazoe at sony.com
Subject:	Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: CESG-P-2023-06-005 Approval to publish CCSDS 
142.10-O-1, Reed-Solomon Product Code for Optical Communication 
(Orange Book, Issue 1)

Categories:	Poll Condition Closure

The updated book looks very good. The condition is hereby retired. 

Best regards,
-Erik

 
From: ????? <araki.tomohiro at jaxa.jp> 
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 1:48:03 AM 
To: Edwards, Bernard L. (GSFC-5600) <bernard.l.edwards at nasa.gov>; Barkley, Erik J (US 3970) 
<erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov> 
Cc: Hamkins, Jon (US 3300) <jon.hamkins at jpl.nasa.gov>; Thomas Gannett 
<thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>; Braatz, Lena E. (HQ-DA000)[BOOZ ALLEN HAMILTON] 
<lena.e.braatz at nasa.gov>; Clemens.Heese at esa.int <Clemens.Heese at esa.int>; 
Hiroaki.Yamazoe at sony.com <Hiroaki.Yamazoe at sony.com> 
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: CESG-P-2023-06-005 Approval to publish CCSDS 142.10-O-1, Reed-Solomon 
Product Code for Optical Communication (Orange Book, Issue 1) 
 
Bernie,
 
I apologies!
I understand well now. 
Updated file is attached on this email.
 
Regards,
 
Tomohiro Araki, JAXA
 
From: Edwards, Bernard L. (GSFC-5600) <bernard.l.edwards at nasa.gov>  
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 5:34 PM 
To: ????? <araki.tomohiro at jaxa.jp>; Barkley, Erik J (JPL-3970)[JPL Employee] 
<erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov> 
Cc: Hamkins, Jon (JPL-3300)[JPL Employee] <jon.hamkins at jpl.nasa.gov>; Thomas Gannett 
<thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>; Braatz, Lena E. (HQ-DA000)[BOOZ ALLEN HAMILTON] 
<lena.e.braatz at nasa.gov>; Clemens.Heese at esa.int 
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: CESG-P-2023-06-005 Approval to publish CCSDS 142.10-O-1, Reed-Solomon 
Product Code for Optical Communication (Orange Book, Issue 1)
 
Hi Tomohiro, 
 
It should be 8b/10b. The “1” is missing!
 
Bernie
From: "?????" <araki.tomohiro at jaxa.jp> 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: CESG-P-2023-06-005 Approval to publish CCSDS 142.10-O-1, Reed-Solomon 
Product Code for Optical Communication (Orange Book, Issue 1) 
Date: 25 August 2023 00:04 
To: "Edwards, Bernard L. (GSFC-5600)" <bernard.l.edwards at nasa.gov>, "Barkley, Erik J (JPL-3970)[JPL 
Employee]" <erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov> 
Cc: "Hamkins, Jon (JPL-3300)[JPL Employee]" <jon.hamkins at jpl.nasa.gov>, "Thomas Gannett" 
<thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>, "Braatz, Lena E. (HQ-DA000)[BOOZ ALLEN HAMILTON]" 
<lena.e.braatz at nasa.gov>, "Clemens.Heese at esa.int" <Clemens.Heese at esa.int> 

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Dear Bernie,
 
Corrected figure is attached on this email.
Is my understanding right?
If right, I will send you updated document file.
 
Regards,
 
Tomohiro Araki
 
From: Edwards, Bernard L. (GSFC-5600) <bernard.l.edwards at nasa.gov>  
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 5:05 AM 
To: Barkley, Erik J (JPL-3970)[JPL Employee] <erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov> 
Cc: Hamkins, Jon (JPL-3300)[JPL Employee] <jon.hamkins at jpl.nasa.gov>; Thomas 
Gannett <thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>; Braatz, Lena E. (HQ-DA000)[BOOZ ALLEN 
HAMILTON] <lena.e.braatz at nasa.gov>; ????? <araki.tomohiro at jaxa.jp>; 
Clemens.Heese at esa.int 
Subject: RE: CESG-P-2023-06-005 Approval to publish CCSDS 142.10-O-1, Reed-Solomon 
Product Code for Optical Communication (Orange Book, Issue 1) 
Importance: High
 
Hi Tomohiro,
 
We need you to make the change because  you have the latest figure.  After you do, can 
you send it to this thread?  It needs to be approved by Erik and Tom Gannett eventually 
needs it.
 
Thanks,
Bernie
 
From: Barkley, Erik J (US 3970) <erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov>  
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 5:11 PM 
To: Edwards, Bernard L. (GSFC-5600) <bernard.l.edwards at nasa.gov> 
Cc: Hamkins, Jon (JPL-3300)[JPL Employee] <jon.hamkins at jpl.nasa.gov>; Thomas 
Gannett <thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>; Braatz, Lena E. (HQ-DA000)[BOOZ ALLEN 
HAMILTON] <lena.e.braatz at nasa.gov>; ????? <araki.tomohiro at jaxa.jp>; 
Clemens.Heese at esa.int 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: CESG-P-2023-06-005 Approval to publish CCSDS 142.10-O-1, 
Reed-Solomon Product Code for Optical Communication (Orange Book, Issue 1)
 
Hi Bernie,
 
It’s pretty close, but not quite there.  Just missing the “1” from “10”.  Please see 
screenshot from the latest book below.
 
Best regards,
-Erik
 
 
 
From: Edwards, Bernard L. (GSFC-5600) <bernard.l.edwards at nasa.gov>  
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 11:16 
To: Barkley, Erik J (US 3970) <erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov> 
Cc: Hamkins, Jon (US 3300) <jon.hamkins at jpl.nasa.gov>; Thomas Gannett 
<thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>; Braatz, Lena E. (HQ-DA000)[BOOZ ALLEN HAMILTON] 
<lena.e.braatz at nasa.gov>; ????? <araki.tomohiro at jaxa.jp>; 
Clemens.Heese at esa.int 
Subject: Re: CESG-P-2023-06-005 Approval to publish CCSDS 142.10-O-1, Reed-Solomon 
Product Code for Optical Communication (Orange Book, Issue 1)
 
Hi Erik,
 
We believe JAXA has met your condition in the attached version.  Please let us know if 
you concur.
 
Thanks,
Bernie Edwards
Here were the conditions levied:
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: ????? <araki.tomohiro at jaxa.jp> 
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 10:11 PM
To: Edwards, Bernard L. (GSFC-5600) 
<bernard.l.edwards at nasa.gov>
Cc: Hamkins, Jon (JPL-3300)[JPL Employee] 
<jon.hamkins at jpl.nasa.gov>; 
Clemens.Heese at esa.int; Braatz, Lena E. 
(HQ-DA000)[BOOZ ALLEN HAMILTON] 
<lena.e.braatz at nasa.gov>; Yamazoe, 
Hiroaki (JSC-OA111)[Sony Computer Science 
Laboratories, Inc] 
<hiroaki.yamazoe at sony.com>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: CESG-P-2023-06-
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Reed-Solomon Product Code for Optical 
Communication (Orange Book, Issue 1)
 
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Dear Bernie,
 
How are you doing in this hot summer?
In Tsukuba and also Tokyo is extreme hot 
every day.
 
My colleague Yamazoesan and I made 
updated and final orange book draft 
reflecting CESG conditions as attached.
Please check and go forward.
I apologies our slow response.
 
Regards,
 
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Tomohiro Araki
Optical Communication Research Team,
R&D directorate, JAXA
 
araki.tomohiro at jaxa.jp
+81-70-3117-7383
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Edwards, Bernard L. (GSFC-5600) 
<bernard.l.edwards at nasa.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 11:33 PM
To: ????? <araki.tomohiro at jaxa.jp>
Cc: Hamkins, Jon (JPL-3300)[JPL Employee] 
<jon.hamkins at jpl.nasa.gov>; 
Clemens.Heese at esa.int; Braatz, Lena E. 
(HQ-DA000)[BOOZ ALLEN HAMILTON] 
<lena.e.braatz at nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: CESG-P-2023-06-005 Approval 
to publish CCSDS 142.10-O-1, Reed-Solomon 
Product Code for Optical Communication 
(Orange Book, Issue 1)
 
Dear Tomohiro,
 
I hope you are doing well and that it is 
not too hot and humid in Japan this 
summer.
 
The JAXA Orange Book poll is complete and 
that there are conditions that must be 
met before publication.  See below.
 
As the email below indicates, disposition 
of the conditions must be negotiated 
directly with the AD(s) who submitted the 
conditions, and the Secretariat must be 
cc:d on all related correspondence. Tom 
Gannett will be responsible for making 
any required changes to the text, as he 
now maintains the most recent version of 
the book.  Of course, we can help you 
with this process.
 
Let me know if you have any questions.
 
Thanks,
Bernie
 
-----Original Message-----
From: CCSDS Secretariat 
<thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 3:38 PM
To: bernard.l.edwards at nasa.gov; Braatz, 
Lena [USA] <braatz_lena at bah.com>
Cc: Erik.Barkley at jpl.nasa.gov; 
Tomaso.deCola at dlr.de
Subject: [External] Re: CESG-P-2023-06-
005 Approval to publish CCSDS 142.10-O-1, 
Reed-Solomon Product Code for Optical 
Communication (Orange Book, Issue 1)
 
Dear Document Rapporteur,
 
The CESG poll to approve publication of 
CCSDS 142.10-O-1, Reed-Solomon Product 
Code for Optical Communication (Orange 
Book, Issue 1) concluded with conditions. 
Please negotiate disposition of the 
conditions directly with the AD(s) who 
voted to approve with conditions and CC 
the Secretariat on all related 
correspondence.
 
 
CESG E-Poll Identifier:  CESG-P-2023-06-
005 Approval to publish CCSDS 142.10-O-1, 
Reed-Solomon Product Code for Optical 
Communication (Orange Book, Issue 1)
 
Results of CESG poll beginning 26 June 
2023 and ending 10 July 2023:
 
                 Abstain:  0 (0%)
 Approve Unconditionally:  2 (50%) 
(Aguilar Sanchez, Wilmot)  Approve with 
Conditions:  2 (50%) (Barkley, 
Cola)  Disapprove with Comment:  0 (0%)
 
CONDITIONS/COMMENTS:
 
     Erik Barkley (Approve with 
Conditions):  Pg 3-1 Figure 3-1 -- for 
clarity, in figure 3-1, suggest changing 
the box labeled "8b10b" to be "8b/10b 
Encoding"
 
     Tomaso de Cola (Approve with 
Conditions):  1) References [8] and [9] 
in section 1.8 do not appear to be 
normative (i.e. not recalled in the 
experimental specification part).
 
2) Section 2.1: the scope of the 
recommendation is state to be for 
spacecraft altitude at 1000-5000 km. Why 
nothing below 1000 km? Then aftewards 
still in Section 2.1 it is stated that 
the specification can apply also to 
longer distances. Up to deep space then?
 
3) Clause 3.2.3: Note 1 reports about 
supporting non-CCSDS frames (I guess 
those subject then to GFP), then note 2 
clarifies this may also happen through 
USLP multiplexing (I guess as user 
defined octet stream isn't it?). Wouldn't 
it better to have a note about CCSDS 
frames overall and then another one 
saying how one could support non-CCSDS 
protocols?
 
4) Annex B: it is claimed that an bit 
error rate simulations were conducted 
over AWGN channel with a fading channel: 
what does it mean exactly?
 
5) Annex B: where can one find evidence 
that the proposed scheme really works as 
stated? The Annex B title is about 
simulation results, but I cannot see any 
reported results in fact. If these are 
available in existing documents, please 
add reference to them.
 
 
Total Respondents:  4
 
No response was received from the 
following Area(s):
 
     SEA
     MOIMS
 
 
 
SECRETARIAT INTERPRETATION OF 
RESULTS:  Approved with Conditions
PROPOSED SECRETARIAT 
ACTION:            Generate CMC poll 
after conditions have been addressed
 
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