[CESG] Question on the CWE on-line Strategic Plan

Barkley, Erik J (3970) erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov
Thu Dec 4 18:13:17 UTC 2014


I concur with Gippo and Peter.

The concerns at WG level are not the same set of concerns at an area level and, in turn the area level concerns are not the same as those of the CESG.  It seems to me that the area director is supposed to provide some value, including coordination among multiple working groups and therefore it makes much more sense to me that the working group chair is not essentially operating independently in effect creating his or her own area.

Best regards,

-Erik

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Subject: Re: [CESG] Question on the CWE on-line Strategic Plan

All,
        I think for the strategic plan we should "lock down the Area Content only for  ADs / DADs"   (e.g. this page http://cwe.ccsds.org/fm/sp/Lists/SLSContent/AllItems.aspx ).
This is for sure area-wide and the (rare) changes shall be coordinated in the Area.

Slightly different could be the matter for the Area Links (e.g.  this page http://cwe.ccsds.org/fm/sp/Lists/SLSLinks/AllItems.aspx ).
This is mainly a list of CWE projects linked to Goals. I do not see there a problem for WG chairs editing it if an information mail is sent to AD/DAD as it happens when new projects are created.

For WG Charters & Projects my recall is that they pass under CESG approval only at WG creation. Eventually CESG is informed but only CMC Poll is created.
No problem as long as this is coordinated with AD/DAD and eventually CESG is informed together with the request for CMC Poll.

In general I think Peter is correct in highlighting the need for some  "web site machinery".

Regards

Gippo



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Ciao Nestor,

Our policy with regard to WG charters and projects has for a long time been that they get CESG and CMC review and approval.  This, is of course, tied to resources and commitments, so there must be some sort of oversight.

The goals as expressed in the Strategic Plan have also been subject to CESG and CMC review.  It seems logical to me that we would continue with that practice, since it is one of the ways that we continue to shape and manage the work that CCSDS does.

The tricky part is that we now have this on-line system for managing all of this but it is not clear that we have any sort of audit trail, draft / published release practice, nor controls on who can make changes.  I think this points to a need to have some added "web site machinery" that will allow us to continue to manage the process.

Regards, Peter


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Date: Thursday, December 4, 2014 7:22 AM
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Subject: [CESG] Question on the CWE on-line Strategic Plan

Dear all,

I would like to get your opinion

Are the WG chairs free to edit their goals and links to those goals at anytime in the CWE on-line strategic plan without approval of the AD?
Or are we going to lock down the Area Content only for  ADs / DADs ?
Do we leave the Links (that point to the goals) open for updates ?

ciao
nestor
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