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From: thomas.gannett at tgannett.net (CCSDS Secretariat)
Date: Sat Feb 1 11:58:47 2014
Subject: [CESG] New CESG Polls
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From Nestor.Peccia at esa.int Tue Feb 4 06:45:14 2014
From: Nestor.Peccia at esa.int (Nestor.Peccia@esa.int)
Date: Tue Feb 4 06:44:12 2014
Subject: [CESG] CMC comments to CCSDS Strategic Plan
Message-ID: <16904_1391514311_52F0D2C7_16904_7647_1_OF2F1CF80B.05A57821-ONC1257C44.00269FD2-C1257C75.00409042@esa.int>
REMINDER
------------------
SLS and MOIMS updated sections are the only ones received
==================================
Dear all,
Please find attached the marked-up Strategic Plan with the CMC compiled
comments.
Schedule is as follows:
AD to deliver to Nestor its related updated section by end January 2014
Nestor to deliver new version of the first sections of the Plan (Page 1 -
10) by end Jan 2014
New version of Strategic Plan to CESG for review by mid Feb 2014
Last comments from CESG on 24th Feb 2014
Issue of Strategic Plan Issue 1 to CMC by end February 2014 (1 month prior
to next CCSDS technical meeting)
The first file contains all the CMC comments and the second includes the
comments in the doc.
[attachment "CCSDS Strat Plan Compilation of Comments - Dec 2013.doc"
deleted by Nestor Peccia/esoc/ESA] [attachment
"CCSDS-StratPlan-A01x1y1x1-d11v0-5Dec13-CompCmts.docx" deleted by Nestor
Peccia/esoc/ESA]
In addition, Juan Miro has prepared a presentation (attached below)
[attachment "CCSDS Strategic Roadmap 131210 rev1.pptx" deleted by Nestor
Peccia/esoc/ESA]
with comments per area, shown below and for your consideration. One of the
main point of discussion at CMC was:
AD to state either that the Area has no long term objectives (2018-2020+)
and once the work is completed the Area will be closed. or to include the
missing long term objectives in the Plan
SEA
SEA plan of work does not seem to contain approved documents (documents in
CWE but number missing)
SEA midterm focus is timeline exchange
SEA long term plan is to standardise time services; this was discussed a
long time ago in CMC but not approved; is it still a valid prospect?
MOIMS
MOIMS Goal 1 ?Spacecraft Conjunction Data Exchange? and Goal 5 ?Digital
Repository Criteria? have no on-going nor future work planned
Mid-term objectives (2017-2018) only for MO services
No long terms objectives (2019-2010) defined
Workplan for Tele-robotics is yet to be defined
CSS
Service Management goals defined in the long term, but no approved
documents
Generic File Transfer is missing from the Strategic Plan although a BoF
has been established and concept paper is being elaborated
SOIS
Only short term (2014-2015) workplan defined
SLS
RF&M: short and mid-term plan are defined
Coding schemes and synchronisation short, mid and long-term plans
identified
Space Data Link protocols workplan to be elaborated between 204 and 2018
Data compression and Space Data link security workplans only cover the
short term
Optical comms workplan is the only goal covering the long term
SIS
SIS Goal 1 ?Use of Internet standards? has no associated workplan
No goal covers the long term (beyond 2017
ciao
nestor
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From Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int Tue Feb 4 09:06:53 2014
From: Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int (Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int)
Date: Tue Feb 4 09:06:01 2014
Subject: [CESG] Resolution SLS-R-2014-02-001 for Three New Projects for the
Coding and Synchronization (C&S) WG
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From erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov Tue Feb 4 10:59:20 2014
From: erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov (Barkley, Erik J (3970))
Date: Tue Feb 4 10:58:18 2014
Subject: [CESG] CMC comments to CCSDS Strategic Plan
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Nestor,
Re
* Service Management goals defined in the long term, but no approved documents
I believe CMC has in fact approved three projects.
Best regards,
-Erik
From: cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org [mailto:cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org] On Behalf Of Nestor.Peccia@esa.int
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 3:45 AM
To: cesg@mailman.ccsds.org
Cc: cmc@mailman.ccsds.org
Subject: [CESG] CMC comments to CCSDS Strategic Plan
REMINDER
------------------
SLS and MOIMS updated sections are the only ones received
==================================
Dear all,
Please find attached the marked-up Strategic Plan with the CMC compiled comments.
Schedule is as follows:
* AD to deliver to Nestor its related updated section by end January 2014
* Nestor to deliver new version of the first sections of the Plan (Page 1 - 10) by end Jan 2014
* New version of Strategic Plan to CESG for review by mid Feb 2014
* Last comments from CESG on 24th Feb 2014
* Issue of Strategic Plan Issue 1 to CMC by end February 2014 (1 month prior to next CCSDS technical meeting)
The first file contains all the CMC comments and the second includes the comments in the doc.
[attachment "CCSDS Strat Plan Compilation of Comments - Dec 2013.doc" deleted by Nestor Peccia/esoc/ESA] [attachment "CCSDS-StratPlan-A01x1y1x1-d11v0-5Dec13-CompCmts.docx" deleted by Nestor Peccia/esoc/ESA]
In addition, Juan Miro has prepared a presentation (attached below)
[attachment "CCSDS Strategic Roadmap 131210 rev1.pptx" deleted by Nestor Peccia/esoc/ESA]
with comments per area, shown below and for your consideration. One of the main point of discussion at CMC was:
* AD to state either that the Area has no long term objectives (2018-2020+) and once the work is completed the Area will be closed. or to include the missing long term objectives in the Plan
SEA
* SEA plan of work does not seem to contain approved documents (documents in CWE but number missing)
* SEA midterm focus is timeline exchange
* SEA long term plan is to standardise time services; this was discussed a long time ago in CMC but not approved; is it still a valid prospect?
MOIMS
* MOIMS Goal 1 "Spacecraft Conjunction Data Exchange" and Goal 5 "Digital Repository Criteria" have no on-going nor future work planned
* Mid-term objectives (2017-2018) only for MO services
* No long terms objectives (2019-2010) defined
* Workplan for Tele-robotics is yet to be defined
CSS
* Service Management goals defined in the long term, but no approved documents
* Generic File Transfer is missing from the Strategic Plan although a BoF has been established and concept paper is being elaborated
SOIS
* Only short term (2014-2015) workplan defined
SLS
* RF&M: short and mid-term plan are defined
* Coding schemes and synchronisation short, mid and long-term plans identified
* Space Data Link protocols workplan to be elaborated between 204 and 2018
* Data compression and Space Data link security workplans only cover the short term
* Optical comms workplan is the only goal covering the long term
SIS
* SIS Goal 1 "Use of Internet standards" has no associated workplan
* No goal covers the long term (beyond 2017
ciao
nestor
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From Nestor.Peccia at esa.int Tue Feb 4 12:39:47 2014
From: Nestor.Peccia at esa.int (Nestor.Peccia@esa.int)
Date: Tue Feb 4 12:38:44 2014
Subject: [CESG] Action due today
Message-ID: <30100_1391535581_52F125DD_30100_17035_1_OFD3C0BA93.34A2C2AE-ONC1257C75.0060D18D-C1257C75.00610659@esa.int>
Chris and Stuart
Please can you respond to this action.
It came during the CMC mid term telecon today
ciao
nestor
CMC-A-2013-12-01
In response to a question from Martin Pilgram regarding the use of
different frequencies for onboard wireless communication, Chris Taylor is
requested to report on the trade-offs and rationale regarding the
selection of frequencies when the CCSDS 882.0-M-1 (Low Data-Rate Wireless
Communications for Spacecraft Monitoring and Control) was developed and
look into expanding to include additional frequencies.
Action: Chris Taylor (respond to Martin Pilgram with an e-mail and copy
the Secretariat)
Due Date: CMC Midterm Telecon
Status: Open
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From Nestor.Peccia at esa.int Wed Feb 5 13:01:06 2014
From: Nestor.Peccia at esa.int (Nestor.Peccia@esa.int)
Date: Wed Feb 5 13:00:08 2014
Subject: [CESG] Notes on webex 5th Feb 2014
Message-ID: <19892_1391623266_52F27C62_19892_8780_1_OFDE8C8FE3.AA3E3FAC-ONC1257C44.005D93A0-C1257C76.0062F9D6@esa.int>
Dear all,
Please find below the webex notes
Strategic Plan update
MOIMS, SLS, SIS and SOIS are done. PS/EB to respond to Nestor mail request
New version for CESG review will be ready next WE
CESG to comment for 1.5 weeks
Delivery to CMC on 24th Feb
Presentation at ESTEC on standards (8th April pm)
It is proposed to make a CESG presentation (30' general + 20'per Area) to
a wide ESTEC audience on 8th April pm at ESTEC. It shall be considered as
an outreach activity. Logistics will be agreed within the CESG during Feb
/ Mar 2014
IOAG meeting + ICPA
IOAG 18. NP to distribute presentation. Top 10 priorities expected from
IOAG
Projects schedule
ADs / WGs Chairs to update Projects behind schedule. NP to send reminder
to CESG-ALL
Org&Proc YB update
Parallel CESG / CMC polling on going closing 17th Feb 2014
Consensus achievement process
PS presented his proposed changes wrt consensus. It was agreed to further
discuss it at the next physical CESG meeting. PS will prepare 2 options
(w/o and with appeal + procedure). Relationship between consensus and
voting has also to be addressed
Overlaps 10'
The CSA Doc can be used as starting point. NP will ask SM&C and SOIS if
they can produce similar diagrams representing the SM&C / SOIS stack at
the application layer.
AOB
ciao
nestor
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From peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov Wed Feb 5 18:15:06 2014
From: peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov (Shames, Peter M (312G))
Date: Wed Feb 5 18:15:40 2014
Subject: [CESG] Figures from SCCS-ARD
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From erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov Thu Feb 6 18:20:25 2014
From: erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov (Barkley, Erik J (3970))
Date: Thu Feb 6 18:20:51 2014
Subject: [CESG] CMC comments to CCSDS Strategic Plan
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From Nestor.Peccia at esa.int Fri Feb 7 12:15:29 2014
From: Nestor.Peccia at esa.int (Nestor.Peccia@esa.int)
Date: Fri Feb 7 12:22:16 2014
Subject: [CESG] CCSDS Strategic Plan Draft 12
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From peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov Fri Feb 7 13:46:45 2014
From: peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov (Shames, Peter M (312G))
Date: Fri Feb 7 13:45:43 2014
Subject: [CESG] CMC comments to CCSDS Strategic Plan
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Nestor,
I have reviewed the CMC comments on the Strategic Plan, and its current contents. I am not sure what the first comment relates to "SEA plan of work does not seem to contain approved documents (documents in CWE but number missing)" because there are no document numbers on most of the other project entries in the CWE that I looked at and documents are not assigned numbers by the CCSDS Tech Editor until they are well along in maturation. Future / longer term projects would not have document numbers assigned.
We (SEA) could propose other mid term and long term projects that would be valuable to the CCSDS, but given the limited resources that the CMC and agencies have made available these would be purely speculative. The items that I would gladly include, if that sort of speculative plan is what is desried, are the following:
1. RASDS review and extensions, to add a Services view (used in the SCCS-ADD and useful in MOIMS and CSS), and to add a SysML mapping for the different views. We have had some practical use of this in various architecture work I have done in the last couple of years.
2. CCSDS Reference Architecture, to provide, at a minimum, a high level mapping of how all of the CCSDS areas and WGs, and their major product groupings, fit together. This would also answer one of the CMC requests, but we cannot do it without resources.
3. We already included the Time Correlation and Synchronization Services. As a forward looking project this will be required in the era of Solar System Internetworking (SSI). Right now we are defining a set of protocols that assume synchronized clocks on distant assets, but we have defined no way to do that synchronization.
4. We also included the reference information architecture, with a full and interoperable SOA specification, in the draft Strategic Plan. This is not yet in the project set, but we can add it to that if that is acceptable as a future project.
If the CMC would like to see future projects like these in the Strategic Plan, and also inserted into the Project Framework, I would be happy to provide them. It will, of course, be most meaningful only if there is some hope of resources from more than one agency to actually accomplish these tasks. Please let me know how you wish to proceed.
Best regards, Peter
From: Nestor Peccia >
Date: Tuesday, February 4, 2014 3:45 AM
To: CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec >
Cc: CMC >
Subject: [CESG] CMC comments to CCSDS Strategic Plan
REMINDER
------------------
SLS and MOIMS updated sections are the only ones received
==================================
Dear all,
Please find attached the marked-up Strategic Plan with the CMC compiled comments.
Schedule is as follows:
* AD to deliver to Nestor its related updated section by end January 2014
* Nestor to deliver new version of the first sections of the Plan (Page 1 - 10) by end Jan 2014
* New version of Strategic Plan to CESG for review by mid Feb 2014
* Last comments from CESG on 24th Feb 2014
* Issue of Strategic Plan Issue 1 to CMC by end February 2014 (1 month prior to next CCSDS technical meeting)
The first file contains all the CMC comments and the second includes the comments in the doc.
[attachment "CCSDS Strat Plan Compilation of Comments - Dec 2013.doc" deleted by Nestor Peccia/esoc/ESA] [attachment "CCSDS-StratPlan-A01x1y1x1-d11v0-5Dec13-CompCmts.docx" deleted by Nestor Peccia/esoc/ESA]
In addition, Juan Miro has prepared a presentation (attached below)
[attachment "CCSDS Strategic Roadmap 131210 rev1.pptx" deleted by Nestor Peccia/esoc/ESA]
with comments per area, shown below and for your consideration. One of the main point of discussion at CMC was:
* AD to state either that the Area has no long term objectives (2018-2020+) and once the work is completed the Area will be closed. or to include the missing long term objectives in the Plan
SEA
* SEA plan of work does not seem to contain approved documents (documents in CWE but number missing)
* SEA midterm focus is timeline exchange
* SEA long term plan is to standardise time services; this was discussed a long time ago in CMC but not approved; is it still a valid prospect?
MOIMS
* MOIMS Goal 1 ?Spacecraft Conjunction Data Exchange? and Goal 5 ?Digital Repository Criteria? have no on-going nor future work planned
* Mid-term objectives (2017-2018) only for MO services
* No long terms objectives (2019-2010) defined
* Workplan for Tele-robotics is yet to be defined
CSS
* Service Management goals defined in the long term, but no approved documents
* Generic File Transfer is missing from the Strategic Plan although a BoF has been established and concept paper is being elaborated
SOIS
* Only short term (2014-2015) workplan defined
SLS
* RF&M: short and mid-term plan are defined
* Coding schemes and synchronisation short, mid and long-term plans identified
* Space Data Link protocols workplan to be elaborated between 204 and 2018
* Data compression and Space Data link security workplans only cover the short term
* Optical comms workplan is the only goal covering the long term
SIS
* SIS Goal 1 ?Use of Internet standards? has no associated workplan
* No goal covers the long term (beyond 2017
ciao
nestor
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From Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int Fri Feb 7 14:01:17 2014
From: Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int (Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int)
Date: Fri Feb 7 14:00:17 2014
Subject: [CESG] CMC comments to CCSDS Strategic Plan / doc numbers
Message-ID: <1964_1391799670_52F52D76_1964_10738_1_OF5835E755.0C2DB1F3-ONC1257C78.00687CFD@esa.int>
I normally ask a number to Tom as soon project starts.
And I always win :o)
thank to Tom of course.
Ciao
Gian Paolo
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From peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov Fri Feb 7 14:02:48 2014
From: peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov (Shames, Peter M (312G))
Date: Fri Feb 7 14:01:44 2014
Subject: [CESG] CMC comments to CCSDS Strategic Plan / doc numbers
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Gippo,
That's cute, but do you ask for numbers for projects that are in the
future and have not yet started?
-p
On 2/7/14 11:01 AM, "Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int"
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>
>I normally ask a number to Tom as soon project starts.
>
>And I always win :o)
> thank to Tom of course.
>Ciao
>
>Gian Paolo
>
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From Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int Fri Feb 7 14:42:43 2014
From: Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int (Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int)
Date: Fri Feb 7 14:45:12 2014
Subject: [CESG] CMC comments to CCSDS Strategic Plan / doc numbers
Message-ID: <28530_1391802365_52F537FD_28530_6085_1_OF65CD2ABA.68182935-ONC1257C78.006C4824@esa.int>
You mentioned "no document numbers on most of the other project entries in the CWE "
It was my understanding that cwe projects should be entered only when resources can be committed and they can start work (at least in short time).
Independently from this, when books go in cwe IMO they can get a number.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shames, Peter M (312G)" [peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov]
Sent: 02/07/2014 07:02 PM GMT
To: Gian Paolo Calzolari; Nestor Peccia
Cc: Management Council CCSDS ; CESG -- CCSDS
Subject: Re: [CESG] CMC comments to CCSDS Strategic Plan / doc numbers
Gippo,
That's cute, but do you ask for numbers for projects that are in the
future and have not yet started?
-p
On 2/7/14 11:01 AM, "Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int"
wrote:
>
>I normally ask a number to Tom as soon project starts.
>
>And I always win :o)
> thank to Tom of course.
>Ciao
>
>Gian Paolo
>
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From peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov Fri Feb 7 14:57:46 2014
From: peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov (Shames, Peter M (312G))
Date: Fri Feb 7 14:56:45 2014
Subject: [CESG] CMC comments to CCSDS Strategic Plan / doc numbers
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I understood that the CMC was asking that the Strategic Plan have mid term
(2-4 years) and longer term (beyond 4 years) projects. That was what I was
responding to. I understood that we agreed that the Strategic Plan was to
be captured, along with current projects, in the CWE. I was, in fact,
responding to the CMC requrest for more mid term and long terms projects
and the request, as I understood it, that these be in the CWE / Framwork.
If this is the case then we all need to insert mid term and longer term
projects, which do not yet have resources, into that framework.
Isn't this what we have all been discussing? If not, then I would assert
that ONLY current projects that have resources go into the Framework and
that longer term projects, that have not yet started, only go into the
Strategic Plan document, but are not in the Framework. Which is it to be?
I thought it was the former, not the latter.
Regards, Peter
On 2/7/14 11:42 AM, "Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int"
wrote:
>You mentioned "no document numbers on most of the other project entries
>in the CWE "
>It was my understanding that cwe projects should be entered only when
>resources can be committed and they can start work (at least in short
>time).
>Independently from this, when books go in cwe IMO they can get a number.
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Shames, Peter M (312G)" [peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov]
>Sent: 02/07/2014 07:02 PM GMT
>To: Gian Paolo Calzolari; Nestor Peccia
>Cc: Management Council CCSDS ; CESG -- CCSDS
>
>Subject: Re: [CESG] CMC comments to CCSDS Strategic Plan / doc numbers
>
>
>
>Gippo,
>
>That's cute, but do you ask for numbers for projects that are in the
>future and have not yet started?
>
>-p
>
>
>On 2/7/14 11:01 AM, "Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>I normally ask a number to Tom as soon project starts.
>>
>>And I always win :o)
>> thank to Tom of course.
>>Ciao
>>
>>Gian Paolo
>>
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From Nestor.Peccia at esa.int Sun Feb 9 12:07:54 2014
From: Nestor.Peccia at esa.int (Nestor.Peccia@esa.int)
Date: Sun Feb 9 12:07:09 2014
Subject: [CESG] CCSDS Presentation to IOAG 18
Message-ID: <11318_1391965671_52F7B5E7_11318_11638_1_OFF880FBCD.B192102F-ONC1257C7A.005DACBC-C1257C7A.005E1B4C@esa.int>
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From Nestor.Peccia at esa.int Sun Feb 9 12:18:06 2014
From: Nestor.Peccia at esa.int (Nestor.Peccia@esa.int)
Date: Sun Feb 9 12:17:09 2014
Subject: [CESG] CMC comments to CCSDS Strategic Plan
In-Reply-To:
References: <16904_1391514311_52F0D2C7_16904_7647_1_OF2F1CF80B.05A57821-ONC1257C44.00269FD2-C1257C75.00409042@esa.int>
Message-ID: <4790_1391966280_52F7B848_4790_15059_1_OF1BDEE6DD.469962AD-ONC1257C7A.005E29AF-C1257C7A.005F0A55@esa.int>
Peter
The approach to follow is the "latter"in your mail.
The strategic plan should contain prospects of work on a 5+ (2020)
horizon; these are topics of standardisation (not necessarily documents).
It is not expected that today these items are in the CWE nor have a CCSDS
approved number since the strategic plan is not a workplan; if in the
future the strategic plan is extracted from the CWE, the information needs
to be there but then there should be a category of projects introduced as
tentative or prospect.
The question refers probably t the fact that in the CWE there are
documents witj approved numbers and others without. It should be made
clear what it means in terms f approval and availability of resources.This
was discussed at the CMC and it was decided to add a flag to the CWE
indicating what documents are approved with resources and which are not.
Please include first your proposed long term Projects in the blue
highlighted text appended after each SEA Goal.
Once the Strategic Plan is agreed with the cMC, we will see how to
proceed.
ciao
nestor
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From peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov Mon Feb 10 12:38:17 2014
From: peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov (Shames, Peter M (312G))
Date: Mon Feb 10 12:38:47 2014
Subject: [CESG] CMC comments to CCSDS Strategic Plan
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From peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov Tue Feb 11 15:26:40 2014
From: peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov (Shames, Peter M (312G))
Date: Tue Feb 11 15:25:57 2014
Subject: [CESG] Revised Consensus options and related issue with revisions
to CCSDS A02.1-Y-3.4
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From Nestor.Peccia at esa.int Wed Feb 12 03:09:10 2014
From: Nestor.Peccia at esa.int (Nestor.Peccia@esa.int)
Date: Wed Feb 12 03:08:22 2014
Subject: [CESG] Revised Consensus options and related issue with revisions
to CCSDS A02.1-Y-3.4
In-Reply-To:
References:
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Peter
We have a currently a problem with the YB.
The decision to launch the poll in parallel was not a good one. CESG
agreed on a version, which was then updated by the CMC.
ADs are now putting conditions on the CMC included text. The YB, at the
end of the day, is owned by the CMC. Some conditions from the ADs might be
not accepted by the CMC
I suggest that we leave the poll close and we then discuss it with the
CMC.
I also suggest to discuss consensus in ou rnext CESG physical meeting.
ciao
nestor
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From peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov Wed Feb 12 10:53:57 2014
From: peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov (Shames, Peter M (312G))
Date: Wed Feb 12 10:53:11 2014
Subject: [CESG] Revised Consensus options and related issue with
revisions to CCSDS A02.1-Y-3.4
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Message-ID:
Nestor,
I am ok with us letting the poll close and then discussing the result with the CMC. I agree that we will have to do that. I would just suggest that we, the CESG, try and reach our own consensus on what we want the inputs to the CMC to be.
My concern is that some of what was inserted in that last go-round can have the effect of breaking something fundamental in how we really operate. Since we are the ones who have to actually guide the opertion of the organiation I think we should have a say in what the guidelines are. And now I will wait quietly for the poll to close.
Regards, Peter
From: Nestor Peccia >
Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 12:09 AM
To: Peter Shames >
Cc: CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec >, "cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org" >
Subject: Re: [CESG] Revised Consensus options and related issue with revisions to CCSDS A02.1-Y-3.4
Peter
We have a currently a problem with the YB.
The decision to launch the poll in parallel was not a good one. CESG agreed on a version, which was then updated by the CMC.
ADs are now putting conditions on the CMC included text. The YB, at the end of the day, is owned by the CMC. Some conditions from the ADs might be not accepted by the CMC
I suggest that we leave the poll close and we then discuss it with the CMC.
I also suggest to discuss consensus in ou rnext CESG physical meeting.
ciao
nestor
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From thomas.gannett at tgannett.net Wed Feb 12 06:00:00 2014
From: thomas.gannett at tgannett.net (CCSDS Secretariat)
Date: Wed Feb 12 11:08:13 2014
Subject: [CESG] CESG Poll Closure Reminder
Message-ID: <52fb9ca3.89298c0a.49ff.fffff775@mx.google.com>
Dear CESG Members,
The closure date for the following polls is 17 February 2014:
- CESG-P-2014-01-001 Approval to release CCSDS A02.1-Y-4,
Organization and Processes for the Consultative Committee for Space
Data Systems (Yellow Book, Issue 4) and related documents
- CESG-P-2014-02-001 Approval to publish CCSDS 652.1-M-2,
Requirements for Bodies Providing Audit and Certification of
Candidate Trustworthy Digital Repositories (Magenta Book, Issue 2)
- CESG-P-2014-02-002 Approval to publish CCSDS 871.2-M-1, Spacecraft
Onboard Interface Services-Device Virtualization Service (Magenta
Book, Issue 1)
These polls can be accessed via the following link:
http://public.ccsds.org/sites/cwe/cesg/Polls/default.aspx
From erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov Fri Feb 14 21:27:43 2014
From: erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov (Barkley, Erik J (3970))
Date: Fri Feb 14 21:26:57 2014
Subject: [CESG] CSS Area Resolution -- publication of updated SLE API
Magenta books
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From Nestor.Peccia at esa.int Tue Feb 18 07:28:38 2014
From: Nestor.Peccia at esa.int (Nestor.Peccia@esa.int)
Date: Tue Feb 18 07:28:40 2014
Subject: [CESG] Fw: IOAG Documentation for Distribution
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From Nestor.Peccia at esa.int Thu Feb 20 12:08:22 2014
From: Nestor.Peccia at esa.int (Nestor.Peccia@esa.int)
Date: Thu Feb 20 12:10:25 2014
Subject: [CESG] CCSDS Strategic Plan Draft 12
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From peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov Tue Feb 25 17:22:33 2014
From: peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov (Shames, Peter M (312G))
Date: Tue Feb 25 17:22:46 2014
Subject: [CESG] CCSDS Strategic Plan Draft 12
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From thomas.gannett at tgannett.net Wed Feb 26 09:10:46 2014
From: thomas.gannett at tgannett.net (CCSDS Secretariat)
Date: Wed Feb 26 09:10:19 2014
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From: Nestor.Peccia at esa.int (Nestor.Peccia@esa.int)
Date: Wed Feb 26 18:19:55 2014
Subject: [CESG] CCSDS Strategic Plan Draft 13
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From Nestor.Peccia at esa.int Wed Feb 26 19:50:23 2014
From: Nestor.Peccia at esa.int (Nestor.Peccia@esa.int)
Date: Wed Feb 26 19:50:51 2014
Subject: [CESG] Re: [CMC Alert] Proposed Disposition of Poll Conditions
In-Reply-To: <530df5e7.cd62e00a.01b5.3260@mx.google.com>
References: <530df5e7.cd62e00a.01b5.3260@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <19669_1393462255_530E8BEF_19669_8450_1_OFD1D4D4E8.38589267-ONC1257C8B.008101FE-C1257C8C.00049D7B@esa.int>
Tom
I believe that there exists a problem in the way you recommend to follow,
in order to save Agenda time in the next physical meeting.
You have discussed and agreed YB text modifications to satisfy ADs / CMC
members' conditions without seeking prior consensus at CESG level,
As CESG Chair, I do not fully agree with some of your (and some ADs)
suggestions. Even if (according to your new text) the CESG chair has no
vote possibility, as MOIMS AD I have approved an YB, that now has been
changed and is seeking approval without re-polling. If a new poll is
issued, I will have the possibility to set my conditions to your new
proposed text.
I do not agree that the CESG Chairs do not vote. It is not usual, but it
has happen in the past. This is the reason why we have the option "other"
in the CESG poll. It is there to be used in atypical situations as the
"last" solution. In case the CESG Chairs could not vote, I would like to
have a discussion about the inclusion of a "veto" option after a CESG
poll.
CMC conditions and its related changes needs to be discussed also at CESG
level. I have some observations on your recommendations.
I firmly believe that we need to discuss these issues during the CESG /
CMC meeting.
ciao
nestor
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From Nestor.Peccia at esa.int Wed Feb 26 19:50:23 2014
From: Nestor.Peccia at esa.int (Nestor.Peccia@esa.int)
Date: Wed Feb 26 19:51:03 2014
Subject: [CESG] Re: [CMC Alert] Proposed Disposition of Poll Conditions
In-Reply-To: <530df5e7.cd62e00a.01b5.3260@mx.google.com>
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Tom
I believe that there exists a problem in the way you recommend to follow,
in order to save Agenda time in the next physical meeting.
You have discussed and agreed YB text modifications to satisfy ADs / CMC
members' conditions without seeking prior consensus at CESG level, In fact
you are only copying the CESG, assuming that the issue is closed at our
level with "your suggested way forward".
As CESG Chair, I do not fully agree with some of your (and some ADs)
suggestions. Even if (according to your new text) the CESG chair has no
vote possibility, as MOIMS AD I have approved an YB, that now has been
changed and is seeking approval without re-polling. If a new poll is
issued, I will have the possibility to set my conditions "as MOIMS AD" to
your new proposed text.
I do not agree that the CESG Chairs do not vote. It is not usual, but it
has happened in the past. This is the reason why we have the option
"other" in the CESG poll. It is there to be used in atypical situations as
the "last" solution. In case the CESG Chairs could not vote, I would like
to have a discussion about the inclusion of a CESG Chairs "veto" option
after a CESG poll.
CMC conditions and its related changes needs to be discussed also at CESG
level. I have some observations on your suggested modifications.
I firmly believe that we need to discuss these issues during the CESG /
CMC meeting.
ciao
nestor
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From Nestor.Peccia at esa.int Wed Feb 26 21:16:20 2014
From: Nestor.Peccia at esa.int (Nestor.Peccia@esa.int)
Date: Wed Feb 26 21:16:21 2014
Subject: [CESG] CWE Project behind schedule
Message-ID: <4917_1393467411_530EA013_4917_8676_1_OF6109412D.65D74E38-ONC1257C8C.000C416D-C1257C8C.000C7B64@esa.int>
Chris, Peter and Erik/Margherita
Please adjust the schedule of the Projects behind schedule in your area
(Peter is mentioned due to the CSA Book)
The majority of remaining projects are in MOIMS and I have already
addressed the WG Chairs
ciao
nestor
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From Nestor.Peccia at esa.int Wed Feb 26 19:52:44 2014
From: Nestor.Peccia at esa.int (Nestor.Peccia@esa.int)
Date: Thu Feb 27 01:52:04 2014
Subject: [CESG] Re: [CMC Alert] Proposed Disposition of Poll Conditions
In-Reply-To: <530df5e7.cd62e00a.01b5.3260@mx.google.com>
References: <530df5e7.cd62e00a.01b5.3260@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <4917_1393483945_530EE0A9_4917_10938_1_3670_1393462397_530E8C7D_3670_9215_1_OFD1D4D4E8.38589267-ONC1257C8B.008101FE-C1257C8C.0004D4A7@esa.int>
Tom
I believe that there exists a problem in the way you recommend to follow,
in order to save Agenda time in the next physical meeting.
You have discussed and agreed Org & Proc YB text modifications to satisfy
ADs / CMC members' conditions without seeking prior consensus at CESG
level, In fact you are only copying the CESG, assuming that the issue is
closed at our level with "your suggested way forward".
As CESG Chair, I do not fully agree with some of your (and probably some
ADs) suggestions. Even if (according to your new text) the CESG chair has
no vote possibility, as MOIMS AD I have approved an YB, that now has been
changed and you are seeking approval without re-polling. If a new poll is
issued, I will have the possibility to set my conditions "as MOIMS AD" to
your new proposed text.
I do not agree that the CESG Chairs do not vote. It is not usual, but it
has happened in the past. This is the reason why we have the option
"other" in the CESG poll. It is there to be used in non-typical situations
as the "last" solution. In case the CESG Chairs could not vote, I would
like to have a discussion about the inclusion of a CESG Chairs "veto"
option after a CESG poll. There are also other possibilities.
CMC conditions and its related changes needs to be discussed also at CESG
level. I have some observations on your suggested modifications.
I firmly believe that we need to discuss these issues during the CESG /
CMC meeting.
ciao
nestor
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From Jean-Marc.Soula at cnes.fr Thu Feb 27 03:33:43 2014
From: Jean-Marc.Soula at cnes.fr (Soula Jean-Marc)
Date: Thu Feb 27 03:33:14 2014
Subject: [CESG] RE: [CMC Alert] Proposed Disposition of Poll Conditions
In-Reply-To: <530df5e7.cd62e00a.01b5.3260@mx.google.com>
References: <530df5e7.cd62e00a.01b5.3260@mx.google.com>
Message-ID:
Bonjour
I disagree with the disposal of CNES-1 and I believe a discussion is required on SEA-1 and SIS-1, if the proposed disposals are accepted by the authors of those two RIDs or after the CESG concludes on this.
On CNES-1, my suggestion was a voting right of 2+12 in CESG while I can now interpret the disposal as some 0+6. I don't believe this can be solved via emails...
So, for me, I would select option 2:
2) the proposed dispositions are NOT acceptable and release of the document should be delayed until after discussions take place at the upcoming "CMC meeting".
However, I believe the said CMC meeting may be before April, via webex-telco, if estimated urgent to finalize this version before the S14 WG meetings.
I leave ESA, DLR and JAXA respond on their items.
Are the two Areas items the only comments / disposals ... or are those the only two brought to the attention of the CMC ?
Best regards
Jean-Marc Soula
CNES - DCT/OP/C-STA
Advisor, GN Operations
18 Avenue Edouard Belin
31401 Toulouse Cedex 9 - France
Tel.: +33 (0)5 61 2 74647
Fax.: +33 (0)5 61 2 73135
Email: Jean-Marc.Soula@cnes.fr
De : cmc-exec-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org [mailto:cmc-exec-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org] De la part de CCSDS Secretariat
Envoy? : mercredi 26 f?vrier 2014 15:11
? : CMC-exec@mailman.ccsds.org
Cc : cesg@mailman.ccsds.org
Objet : [CMC Alert] Proposed Disposition of Poll Conditions
Importance : Haute
Dear CMC Members:
The recent joint CESG/CMC polls to approve release of CCSDS A02.1-Y-4, Organization and Processes for the Consultative Committee for Space Data Systems (Yellow Book, Issue 4) closed with conditions.
While it is possible to devote valuable agenda time at the next CMC meeting to discussion of these conditions, I have nevertheless proposed dispositions that could allow release of the document prior to the meeting (see attached file).
The CESG members who voted for conditional approval have already agreed to the proposed dispositions. If the CMC members who voted to adopt provisionally were to agree to the proposed dispositions of both the CMC provisions and CESG conditions, there would be no need to add an agenda item to the upcoming meeting to resolve the issues.
Therefore the CMC members who voted to adopt provisionally, i.e., the CNES, DLR, ESA, and JAXA delegates, should "reply all" to this e-mail to indicated one of the following options:
1) the proposed dispositions are acceptable, and release of the document should proceed; or
2) the proposed dispositions are NOT acceptable and release of the document should be delayed until after discussions take place at the upcoming CMC meeting.
Other CMC members should respond only if they object to releasing the document prior to the meetings.
Best regards,
Tom Gannett
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From Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int Thu Feb 27 04:10:38 2014
From: Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int (Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int)
Date: Thu Feb 27 04:27:13 2014
Subject: [CESG] Proposed Disposition of Poll Conditions
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References: <530df5e7.cd62e00a.01b5.3260@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <28322_1393493256_530F0508_28322_8464_9_16063_1393492271_530F012F_16063_6071_1_OF4E985229.21140482-ONC1257C8C.003243F6-C1257C8C.003269C4@esa.int>
Tom,
I think the SLS comments are not addressed.
Despite they were not stated as "conditions" I think it would be worth to
address them to have a common understanding in CESG and CMC.
Thank you and regards
Gian Paolo
From: CCSDS Secretariat
To: CMC-exec@mailman.ccsds.org,
Cc: cesg@mailman.ccsds.org
Date: 26/02/2014 15:14
Subject: [CESG] Proposed Disposition of Poll Conditions
Sent by: cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org
Dear CMC Members:
The recent joint CESG/CMC polls to approve release of CCSDS A02.1-Y-4,
Organization and Processes for the Consultative Committee for Space Data
Systems (Yellow Book, Issue 4) closed with conditions.
While it is possible to devote valuable agenda time at the next CMC
meeting to discussion of these conditions, I have nevertheless proposed
dispositions that could allow release of the document prior to the meeting
(see attached file).
The CESG members who voted for conditional approval have already agreed to
the proposed dispositions. If the CMC members who voted to adopt
provisionally were to agree to the proposed dispositions of both the CMC
provisions and CESG conditions, there would be no need to add an agenda
item to the upcoming meeting to resolve the issues.
Therefore the CMC members who voted to adopt provisionally, i.e., the
CNES, DLR, ESA, and JAXA delegates, should "reply all" to this e-mail to
indicated one of the following options:
1) the proposed dispositions are acceptable, and release of the document
should proceed; or
2) the proposed dispositions are NOT acceptable and release of the
document should be delayed until after discussions take place at the
upcoming CMC meeting.
Other CMC members should respond only if they object to releasing the
document prior to the meetings.
Best regards,
Tom Gannett[attachment "Proposed Dispositions to Poll Conditions.doc"
deleted by Gian Paolo Calzolari/esoc/ESA]
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From Nestor.Peccia at esa.int Thu Feb 27 10:06:58 2014
From: Nestor.Peccia at esa.int (Nestor.Peccia@esa.int)
Date: Thu Feb 27 10:09:19 2014
Subject: [CESG] Draft Opening Plenary Presentation Fall 2014,
NH Conference Hotel, Holland
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Date: Thu Feb 27 16:56:11 2014
Subject: [CESG] Draft Opening Plenary Presentation Fall 2014,
NH Conference Hotel, Holland
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From Martin.Pilgram at dlr.de Fri Feb 28 05:55:11 2014
From: Martin.Pilgram at dlr.de (Martin.Pilgram@dlr.de)
Date: Fri Feb 28 05:54:45 2014
Subject: [CESG] AW: [CMC Alert] Proposed Disposition of Poll Conditions
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Message-ID:
Tom,
After having seen the other comments, DLR wants to go with solution 2. We should arrange a discussion in the next CMC meeting.
We have some concerns on the proposed changes for the SEA, SIS items. But it makes no sense to discuss it without SEA and SIS people. And at least from the Gian-Paolo mail, it seemed that there are more comments from the area managers, which should be discussed with them.
Regards
Martin
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www.DLR.de
Von: cmc-exec-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org [mailto:cmc-exec-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org] Im Auftrag von CCSDS Secretariat
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2014 15:11
An: CMC-exec@mailman.ccsds.org
Cc: cesg@mailman.ccsds.org
Betreff: [CMC Alert] Proposed Disposition of Poll Conditions
Wichtigkeit: Hoch
Dear CMC Members:
The recent joint CESG/CMC polls to approve release of CCSDS A02.1-Y-4, Organization and Processes for the Consultative Committee for Space Data Systems (Yellow Book, Issue 4) closed with conditions.
While it is possible to devote valuable agenda time at the next CMC meeting to discussion of these conditions, I have nevertheless proposed dispositions that could allow release of the document prior to the meeting (see attached file).
The CESG members who voted for conditional approval have already agreed to the proposed dispositions. If the CMC members who voted to adopt provisionally were to agree to the proposed dispositions of both the CMC provisions and CESG conditions, there would be no need to add an agenda item to the upcoming meeting to resolve the issues.
Therefore the CMC members who voted to adopt provisionally, i.e., the CNES, DLR, ESA, and JAXA delegates, should "reply all" to this e-mail to indicated one of the following options:
1) the proposed dispositions are acceptable, and release of the document should proceed; or
2) the proposed dispositions are NOT acceptable and release of the document should be delayed until after discussions take place at the upcoming CMC meeting.
Other CMC members should respond only if they object to releasing the document prior to the meetings.
Best regards,
Tom Gannett
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