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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Peter,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">looks ok to me now. The only last thing I’ve noticed is that in the slide dealing with the return message delivery (i.e. slide 7 with AMS end-to-end), the blue portion of the network
still shows the CFDP components, which may be are not so relevant here (though obviously the spacecraft will implement CFDP for other file-based services) as the focus of this slide is on the return message delivery.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Tomaso<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-ligatures:none">Von:</span></b><span style="mso-ligatures:none"> Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov>
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 30. November 2023 14:16<br>
<b>An:</b> de Cola, Tomaso <Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de>; Klaus-Juergen.Schulz@esa.int<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cesg-all@mailman.ccsds.org<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Cesg-all] LNIS v5 Comments: CCSDS CESG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear Tomaso,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks for pointing this out. I’ve just edited that slide (#7) to insert ENCAP and also replace BSSP with AMS and a set of message users. Those are all viable CCSDS standards.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Sorry for the need for last minute edits to clean this up, but I agree it’s best to be accurate. If you identify other issues please point them out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Regards, Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-ligatures:none">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-ligatures:none">CESG-All <<a href="mailto:cesg-all-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg-all-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>> on behalf of CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG All <<a href="mailto:cesg-all@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg-all@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"<a href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de">Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</a>" <<a href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de">Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 12:22 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Klaus-Juergen Schulz <<a href="mailto:Klaus-Juergen.Schulz@esa.int">Klaus-Juergen.Schulz@esa.int</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG All <<a href="mailto:cesg-all@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg-all@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] Re: [Cesg-all] LNIS v5 Comments: CCSDS CESG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ligatures:none"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Klaus-Jürgen,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">just two small remarks:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span lang="EN-US">BP currently cannot work directly on top of USLP, whereas you could use BP over EPP/SPP and then encapsulated into USLP<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span lang="EN-US">BSSP, from a CCSDS standardization standpoint, there exist no blue book about it. There is a green book (CCSDS 730.2-G-1) elaborating on the different ways on how
to achieve streaming over DTN.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Tomaso<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-ligatures:none">Von:</span></b><span style="mso-ligatures:none"> CESG-All <<a href="mailto:cesg-all-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg-all-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>>
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Klaus-Juergen Schulz via CESG-All<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 29. November 2023 17:19<br>
<b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:CESG-all@mailman.ccsds.org">CESG-all@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> [Cesg-all] FW: LNIS v5 Comments: CCSDS CESG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">fyi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> Klaus-Juergen Schulz
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 29, 2023 5:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gsfc-lunanet@mail.nasa.gov">gsfc-lunanet@mail.nasa.gov</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Sami W. Asmar (<a href="mailto:sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov">sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov</a>) <<a href="mailto:sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov">sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>; Timothy.T.Pham (<a href="mailto:Timothy.T.Pham@jpl.nasa.gov">Timothy.T.Pham@jpl.nasa.gov</a>)
<<a href="mailto:Timothy.T.Pham@jpl.nasa.gov">Timothy.T.Pham@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>; Peter Shames (<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>) <<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: LNIS v5 Comments: CCSDS CESG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Dear NASA, ESA, JAXA LunaNet Interoperability Specification (LNIS) Team,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">A minor mistake was spotted in the presentation protocol stack diagram, please find attached a modified version.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Also find attached the more detailed comments in the required spreadsheet format.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Looking forward to meeting with you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Klaus-Juergen Schulz (CESG Chair)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> Klaus-Juergen Schulz
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 28, 2023 9:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gsfc-lunanet@mail.nasa.gov">gsfc-lunanet@mail.nasa.gov</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Sami W. Asmar (<a href="mailto:sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov">sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov</a>) <<a href="mailto:sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov">sami.w.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>; Timothy.T.Pham (<a href="mailto:Timothy.T.Pham@jpl.nasa.gov">Timothy.T.Pham@jpl.nasa.gov</a>)
<<a href="mailto:Timothy.T.Pham@jpl.nasa.gov">Timothy.T.Pham@jpl.nasa.gov</a>>; Peter Shames (<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>) <<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> LNIS v5 Comments: CCSDS CESG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Dear NASA, ESA, JAXA LunaNet Interoperability Specification (LNIS) Team,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">CCSDS is fully committed to support the international LunaNet initiative with targeted standardisation activities to ensure interoperability and cross support between its partners. It has therefore carefully reviewed
the LNIS v5 specification during its meetings in The Hague, Fall 2023. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Please find attached a short presentation from CCSDS CMC and CESG about the LNIS v5 specification.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The general impression is that the LNIS v5 is not in a state of maturity that would allow for a productive line-by-line RID Review. We would therefore prefer to first have an interaction in the form of a meeting, subsequent
to which we can submit more detailed comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">CCSDS is available as indicated in the presentation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Looking forward to meeting with you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Klaus-Juergen Schulz (CESG Chair)<o:p></o:p></p>
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