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The SOIS-APP and SUBNET have relatively short email lists and all
are active participants on the formal list. We have had a couple
join requests but they were denied as they did not reply to
requests for information as to affiliation and reason for
participation.<br>
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Regards,<br>
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Jonathan<br>
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Jonathan Wilmot<br>
NASA/GSFC<br>
SOIS AD <br>
SOIS-APP WG Chair<br>
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On 4/20/2017 5:06 PM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Nestor.Peccia@esa.int">Nestor.Peccia@esa.int</a> wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Dear all,
I would suggest the following, if not done yet
e-mail your WG list(s) (some WGs have 2 lists, the formal and the info
ones) explaining that a maintenance is being carried out and to reply
indicating if they wish to remain on the WG list(s)
no reply implies no interest, and you might remove her / him from the list
who replies asking to remain on the "formal" list, raises a further check
if she / he has a CWE login account, it means that they have been
sponsored by a member / observer agency. An additional check will then be
performed by the Secretariat
if she / he does not have a CWE login account , the WG chair has to decide
either to ask the member to get one or transfer her / him to a "WG info"
list.
who replies asking to remain on the "info" list, stays on it.
I know that this is a tedious process, and CCSDS shall be open to
everybody, but we are phasing some internal issues
ciao
nestor
----- Forwarded by Nestor Peccia/esoc/ESA on 20/04/2017 22:37 -----
From: Nestor Peccia/esoc/ESA
To: "CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG All"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cesg-all@mailman.ccsds.org"><cesg-all@mailman.ccsds.org></a>
Date: 27/03/2017 18:04
Subject: Request to chheck your WG mailing list
Dear all,
Some additional clarifications from the Secretariat
To join a Working Group, the procedures state that ?a person ?joins? a WG
by subscribing to the mailing list.?. This list is created by the
Secretariat, but maintained by the Working Group per the procedures ?A
minimum requirement for the day-to-day activities of a WG is therefore
that it must maintain an official moderated and archived CCSDS mailing
list. Every WG will be provided with its own list capability by the
Secretariat"
It is possible that individuals have joined a WG (by the definition above)
without actually joining the CWE. They are on separate servers and
administered by the WGs. The intent of the procedures is that individuals
joining a WG will also have a CWE account and an associated sponsoring
agency though. This is evidenced by the fact that the procedures state
that ?All members of the WG will have access to the private Web areas,
using a user ID issued by the Secretariat. ? Thus, it seems reasonable to
ascertain that ?members? are those individuals whom also have CWE access
credentials, and as such, have a sponsoring agency approving their
membership. There is thus a disconnect in the procedures that we are
currently trying to address.
ciao
nestor
----- Forwarded by Nestor Peccia/esoc/ESA on 27/03/2017 17:56 -----
From: Nestor Peccia/esoc/ESA
To: "CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG All"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cesg-all@mailman.ccsds.org"><cesg-all@mailman.ccsds.org></a>
Cc: "CCSDS Secretariat (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:secretariat@mailman.ccsds.org">secretariat@mailman.ccsds.org</a>)"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:secretariat@mailman.ccsds.org"><secretariat@mailman.ccsds.org></a>
Date: 24/03/2017 08:12
Subject: Request to chheck your WG mailing list
Dear WG Chairs
CMC, CESG and the Secretariat are discussing an update of the Procedure
and Organization YB to improve the text when defining the criteria for
joining the Working Group mailing lists, regarding external requests for
individuals with no sponsoring Agency.
Every WG will have its official WG mailing list for normal operation, but
you may also, at your discretion, request creation of a "WG Info" mailing
list for outreach. This mailing list will be broadly open to the public.
When discussing at CESG level, we also address the need for the WG Chairs
to carry out a sanity check in their current mailing lists. There are some
WGs with more than hundred members. Members with no sponsoring Agency have
to be brought to the attention of the ADs.
You will find attached exports (produced by the Secretariat) for all
members within the current open WGs and BoFs.
We kindly ask that the chairs perform changes to the mailing lists via the
web interface.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://mailman.ccsds.org/cgi-bin/mailman/admin">https://mailman.ccsds.org/cgi-bin/mailman/admin</a>
If a WG Chair has lost their Admin Password, or need instructions on how
to remove an e-mail account; then please have them contact CCSDS Tech
Support at <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:techsupport@mailman.ccsds.org">techsupport@mailman.ccsds.org</a>.
ciao
nestor
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