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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>DAI has a similar use of a couple different mailing lists. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Actually curious about why this is an issue. Seems like having a larger list with lots of addresses would be desirable to help bring in outside resources to support the CCSDS mission and development of CCSDS standards. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Also seems like having the larger mailing lists supports ISO’s need for an open, multi-stakeholder process.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Peace and joy,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>-JOhn Garrett<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> CESG-All [mailto:cesg-all-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Berry, David S (3920)<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 24, 2017 12:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> Nestor.Peccia@esa.int; CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG All <cesg-all@mailman.ccsds.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Cesg-all] Request to chheck your WG mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Courier'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Courier'>Nestor:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Courier'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Courier'>The MOIMS/Navigation Working Group already maintains 2 email lists. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Courier'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Courier'>One is for people who are coming to meetings, editing documents, and otherwise contributing (called "MOIMS-NAV-EXEC"). I maintain this list regularly to keep it current and applicable. While we do have a few entries for people that do not work at/for space agencies, they are valuable contributors.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Courier'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Courier'>The second list is "broadly open to the public"; it is the one that the Secretariat dumped in its report (i.e., "MOIMS-NAV"). This list also contains the members on the MOIMS-NAV-EXEC list, in addition to a lot of people who have expressed interest in our work. This list is not used much, but I also see no reason to maintain it unless someone asks to be removed. I think it's really irrelevant how large the list is.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Courier'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Courier'>I don't care if the lists need to be renamed to fit some CESG-approved naming scheme, but I think I have a structure currently in place that meets the spirit of your request.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Courier'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Courier'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Courier'>David<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Courier'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Courier'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Courier'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Courier'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>CESG-All <<a href="mailto:cesg-all-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg-all-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>> on behalf of "<a href="mailto:Nestor.Peccia@esa.int">Nestor.Peccia@esa.int</a>" <<a href="mailto:Nestor.Peccia@esa.int">Nestor.Peccia@esa.int</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Friday, March 24, 2017 at 12:12 AM<br><b>To: </b>CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG All <<a href="mailto:cesg-all@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg-all@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>[Cesg-all] Request to chheck your WG mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Dear WG Chairs</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>CMC, CESG and the Secretariat are discussing an update of the Procedure and Organization YB to improve the text when defining the criteria for joining the Working Group mailing lists, regarding external requests for individuals with no sponsoring Agency.</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Every WG will have its official WG mailing list for normal operation, but you may also, at your discretion, request creation of a "WG Info" mailing list for outreach. This mailing list will be broadly open to the public.</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>When discussing at CESG level, we also address the need for the WG Chairs to carry out a sanity check in their current mailing lists. There are some WGs with more than hundred members. Members with no sponsoring Agency have to be brought to the attention of the ADs.</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>You will find attached exports (produced by the Secretariat) for all members within the current open WGs and BoFs. </span><br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>We kindly ask that the chairs perform changes to the mailing lists via the web interface.</span> <br><a href="https://mailman.ccsds.org/cgi-bin/mailman/admin"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>https://mailman.ccsds.org/cgi-bin/mailman/admin</span></a> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>If a WG Chair has lost their Admin Password, or need instructions on how to remove an e-mail account; then please have them contact CCSDS Tech Support at </span><a href="mailto:techsupport@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>techsupport@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>.</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>ciao</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>nestor</span><o:p></o:p></p><pre>This message and any attachments are intended for the use of the addressee or addressees only.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>The unauthorised disclosure, use, dissemination or copying (either in whole or in part) of its<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>content is not permitted.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>If you received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Emails can be altered and their integrity cannot be guaranteed by the sender.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Please consider the environment before printing this email.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre></div></body></html>