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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Hi Nestor,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">You are correct. I missed the fact that this was only supposed to be for DRAFT projects. The inclusion of some current projects in the list was the primary source of my confusion … that
and missing the word "draft" in the subject.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I think it would help in the future, and would remove confusion, if the existing projects were removed from the table.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Thanks, Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Nestor Peccia <Nestor.Peccia@esa.int><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, October 7, 2016 at 12:02 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Peter Shames <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><br>
<b>Cc: </b>CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG All <cesg-all@mailman.ccsds.org>, Martin Pilgram <martin.pilgram@dlr.de><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Cesg-all] [CMC] combined Priority List of draft Projects<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">Peter
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">I believe that you have not understood that Martin's table is
<b><u>only</u></b> for draft Projects</span> <br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">Now my responses</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">Delta-DOR WG was completely missing. I added it in the attached, but greyed out all the votes since there were none.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif";color:red">Totally wrong. You are addressing already approved Projects and Martin's Table only refers to draft Projects.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif";color:red">If you go to the CWE and display the Draft Project View you will discover that the D-DOR WG has no draft Projects</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif";color:red">I can imagine that you got confused because the Table contains some already approved Projects (which were draft at April 2016, when I originally created the Table). Martin has highlighted
them in the 1st column with a different colour, but forgot to clarify all the details of how to interpret the Table. This has some consequences when broadcasting the mail to the whole CESG-all list.</span>
<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">I do not know if other WG or projects are missing, but I recommend that each AD take a look at their own.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif";color:red">You are endorsing my recommendation.</span>
<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">Three of the agencies did not place any Priorities at all. Some did not indicate any Priority 1. I would think an agency might state a high priority even if they were not able to contribute.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif";color:red">I have asked, as CESG Chair, to the CMC to take this action on board during the Brazil meeting. Martin has used a Table initially prepared by me. My other request was to receive the CMC
response 2 weeks at least prior to Rome. Martin sent me a draft some weeks ago noting that several Agencies were still missing, I have reconfirmed our need even if the Table would be incomplete. This will be discussed at the next CESG / CMC Joint meeting.</span>
<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">Some active projects have no priority 1 votes, but they are active and are getting resources from agencies. I think that is OK, but I think that violates your newly made up rule ("a BB shall have
2 Agencies marking it as Priority 1"). </span> <br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif";color:red">Correct. The Table was produced in April 2016 and some Projects are now approved Projects. Martin has highlighted them with different background colours (see 1st column).</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif";color:red">Please understand that Agencies are communicating us their priorities for draft Projects, which have no rules, i.e. no violation.
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif";color:red">The rule is a CMC rule, suggested by the CESG Chair, but the only body managing resources is the CMC, not the CESG.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif";color:red">The rule applies when an AD submits a Draft Project for CMC approval. If no all resources are granted, the Project will remain as Draft. We have still the issue of the Projects missing
resources before the rule entered into effect.</span> <o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">I think any such proposed new rule needs to be discussed and agreed to by the CESG and concurred to by the CMC. I do not believe that has happened.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif";color:red">I do not understand. There is only one rule and under my humble opinion is enough. We can discuss this during our CESG meeting under the Agenda item "resources"</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">ciao</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif","serif"">nestor</span> <o:p>
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