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Dear CESG members:<br><br>
Concerning the following polls that ended with conditional
approval:<br><br>
- CESG-P-2015-03-007 Approval to release CCSDS 876.0-R-1, Spacecraft
Onboard Interface Services—XML Specification for Electronic Data Sheets
for Onboard Devices (Red Book, Issue 1) for CCSDS Agency review;<br><br>
- CESG-P-2015-03-008 Approval to release CCSDS 876.1-R-1, Spacecraft
Onboard Interface Services—Specification for Dictionary of Terms for
Electronic Data Sheets for Onboard Components (Red Book, Issue 1) for
CCSDS Agency review;<br><br>
- CESG-P-2015-04-002 Approval to publish CCSDS 551.1-O-1, Correlated Data
Generation (Orange Book, Issue 1);<br><br>
ADs/DADs who voted for conditional approval have either (1) responded to
indicate proposed dispositions are accepted or accepted with modification
(in which case dispositions with modifications have been applied to the
current document draft) or (2) have not responded within the 30-day time
period allotted for response to proposed dispositions (lack of response
being interpreted as indication of acceptance).<br><br>
The Secretariat will now therefore issue CMC polls for authorization to
release the respective documents.<br><br>
<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">From: "Scott, Keith
L." <kscott@mitre.org><br>
To: "r.krosley@andropogon.org"
<r.krosley@andropogon.org>, "tomg@aiaa.org"<br>
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<tomg@aiaa.org><br>
CC: "jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov"
<jonathan.j.wilmot@nasa.gov>,<br>
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"jean-francois.dufour@esa.int"
<jean-francois.dufour@esa.int>, CCSDS Exec<br>
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<cesg@mailman.ccsds.org><br>
Subject: Re: Results of CESG Poll CESG-P-2015-03-008 Approval to
release<br>
CCSDS 876.1-R-1, Spacecraft Onboard Interface
Services-Specification for<br>
Dictionary of Terms for Electronic Data Sheets for Onboard
Components (Red<br>
Book, Issue 1) for CCSDS Agency r...<br>
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 15:57:57 +0000<br><br>
The SIS Area is ok with the proposed resolutions to our RIDs.<br><br>
—keith<br><br>
From: Ramon Krosley<br>
Reply-To:
"<a href="mailto:r.krosley@andropogon.org">
r.krosley@andropogon.org</a>"<br>
Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 11:11 PM<br>
To: Tom Gannett<br>
Cc: Jonathan Wilmot, Richard Barton,
"<a href="mailto:jean-francois.dufour@esa.int">
jean-francois.dufour@esa.int</a>", Peter Shames, "Scott, Keith
L."<br>
Subject: Fw: Re: Results of CESG Poll CESG-P-2015-03-008 Approval to
release CCSDS 876.1-R-1, Spacecraft Onboard Interface
Services-Specification for Dictionary of Terms for Electronic Data Sheets
for Onboard Components (Red Book, Issue 1) for CCSDS Agency r...<br><br>
Tom, here is the email sent in May. It explains the attachment,
which contains the documents and replies to comments. Thanks for
your help!<br>
Ramon<br>
<br>
---- Original Message ----<br>
From: "Ramon Krosley"
<<a href="mailto:r.krosley@andropogon.org">r.krosley@andropogon.org</a>
><br>
To: <a href="mailto:kscott@mitre.org">kscott@mitre.org</a>,
<a href="mailto:tomaso.decola@dlr.de">tomaso.decola@dlr.de</a>,
<a href="mailto:peter.shames@jpl.nasa.gov">peter.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</a>
<br>
Cc:
<a href="mailto:richard.melvin@scisys.co.uk">
richard.melvin@scisys.co.uk</a><br>
Sent: May 18, 2015 08:29:26 MDT<br>
Subject: Re: Results of CESG Poll CESG-P-2015-03-008 Approval to
release CCSDS 876.1-R-1, Spacecraft Onboard Interface
Services-Specification for Dictionary of Terms for Electronic Data
Sheets for Onboard Components (Red Book, Issue 1) for CCSDS Agency
review<br><br>
<br>
Richard Melvin and I have been coordinating the improvements to the EDS
and DoT red books. The attachment contains the revised documents
and replies to your comments. There are two directories in the
attachment, one for EDS and one for DoT. Please let us know whether
these changes are satisfactory.<br><br>
(The attachment was renamed in case your mail systems filter .zip
files. To use the attachment, rename its file type from .zp to
.zip; it's a standard windows compressed directory. Let me know if
I should retransmit in some other form.)<br><br>
Ramon Krosley<br>
<br>
On April 16, 2015 13:25 MDT, "Ramon Krosley"
<<a href="mailto:r.krosley@andropogon.org">r.krosley@andropogon.org</a>
> wrote:<br><br>
<br>
Many thanks for these comments! I'll work through them, and
communicate further.<br><br>
On the issue of relationship with XTCE and Spacecraft Monitoring and
Control, there are a couple of developing activities.
<ul>
<li>One activity is the green book that is being written now in the SOIS
APP working group. It contains an "onion diagram" which
shows where XTCE could be used and where SOIS EDS's could be used.
This diagram could be a topic for discussion between SM&C and
SOIS-APP. I'll leave it to Jonathan to organize that discussion, if
that's appropriate.
<li>The other development comes from the fact that Kevin Rice is in the
SOIS APP working group, and he is one of the authors of XTCE. Kevin
and I have been discussing how the DoT could be used in XTCE, which could
provide continuity of terminology across vehicle and mission control.
</ul>Ramon<br><br>
<br>
On April 16, 2015 11:48 MDT, "Thomas Gannett"
<<a href="mailto:tomg@aiaa.org">tomg@aiaa.org</a>> wrote:<br><br>
<br>
Dear Jonathan et al.:<br><br>
The CESG poll to approve release of the SOIS DoT Red Book concluded with
conditions. The conditions are stated below; attachments referenced in
the conditions are attached to this message
(876x1r0_CESG_Approval-SEA.pdf and 876.1-R-1.zipx).<br><br>
Also attached is the Word file (876x1r0_CESG_Approval.doc) used to create
the PDF file used in the poll. <u>Please use it to make changes in
response to conditions.</u><br><br>
Resolution of the conditions should be negotiated directly with the
authors of the conditions (CCed) and reported back to the CESG.<br><br>
Best regards,<br>
Tom Gannett</blockquote><br><br>
[With respect to the SOIS-document dispositions referenced above, an
additional response of concurrence from the SEA AD is thought to have
been provided but was not received by the Secretariat and therefore is
not included here.]<br><br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">From: Hiroshi Takeuchi
<takeuchi@isas.jaxa.jp><br>
To: "Shames, Peter M (312B)"
<peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov>,<br>
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"Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int"
<Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int>, Thomas Gannett<br>
<x-tab> </x-tab>
<tomg@aiaa.org>, "Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de"
<Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de><br>
Subject: Re: [Secretariat] [Cesg-all] Results of CESG Polls closing 4 May
2015<br>
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 02:19:49 +0900<br>
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Tom, All,<br><br>
I'm so sorry for my late response. I was pointed out from Peter that<br>
I had not yet responded to this.<br>
I forgot to response to you because I totally agree with the proposal
<br>
from my Area Director and Gippo. I have nothing else to add.<br>
Again, I'm so sorry for the delay in replying to you.<br><br>
Regards,<br>
Hiroshi<br><br>
<br>
2015/06/16 00:23:27, "Shames, Peter M (312B)" wrote:<br>
>From: "Shames, Peter M (312B)"
<peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><br>
>To:
"Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int"
<Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int>,<br>
>
"Thomas Gannett" <tomg@aiaa.org>, <br>
>
"takeuchi@isas.jaxa.jp" <takeuchi@isas.jaxa.jp>, <br>
>
"Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de" <Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de><br>
>Subject: Re: [Secretariat] [Cesg-all] Results of CESG Polls
closing 4 <br>
> May 2015<br>
><br>
>Tom, et al,<br>
><br>
>I agree with Gippo and also with his proposed fix to uniformly adopt
the <br>
>correct term "Transfer Frame Data Field". It
will also be necessary to <br>
>ensure that other places in the text, such as 2.3.2.2.a) ..<br>
><br>
><br>
>> 2.3.2.2 With the training sample bits
uniformly inserted in the Transfer <br>
>> Frame body, regard<br>
>> must be paid to the following:<br>
>> a) The test data bits need to be distributed a priori among
other bits of <br>
>> the Transfer Frame (see 3.1 b))<br>
>> according to the established procedure (rules), with alternation
being <br>
>> optional (see section 6 in reference [1]);<br>
><br>
><br>
>Are fixed to read like this:<br>
><br>
><br>
>> 2.3.2.2 With the training sample bits
uniformly inserted in the Transfer <br>
>> Frame Data Field, regard<br>
>> must be paid to the following:<br>
>> a) The test data bits need to be distributed a priori among
other bits of <br>
>> the Transfer Frame Data Field (see 3.1 b))<br>
>> according to the established procedure (rules), with alternation
being <br>
>> optional (see section 6 in reference [1]);<br>
><br>
><br>
>There are several places in the text where reference is made just to
<br>
>"Transfer Frame" where the reference is properly to
Transfer Frame Data Field.<br>
><br>
><br>
>In addition to removing the indicated sub-sections of Sec 2.3.2,
Figure 2-4 <br>
>shall also be removed. It is relevant only to the excised
sections.<br>
><br>
>Aside from that all of the conditions that SEA has upon this document
are met.<br>
><br>
>Best regards, Peter<br>
><br>
><br>
>On 6/13/15, 11:00 AM,
"[a:<a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int%5DGian.Paolo" eudora="autourl">
mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int]Gian.Paolo</a>.<br>
>Calzolari@esa.int"
<[a:<a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int%5DGian.Paolo" eudora="autourl">
mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int]Gian.Paolo</a>.<br>
>Calzolari@esa.int> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
>> Dear All,<br>
>> The change is fine with one
small remark/suggestion.<br>
>> I would recommend replacing "Transfer Frame body" with
"Transfer Frame Data<br>
>> Field".<br>
>> I guess that is this what is meant by "Transfer Frame
body" otherwise it<br>
>> would be another alteration of the frame structure.<br>
>> I saw that the word body is present 4 times: 3 times for
and in one case <br>
>> for<br>
>> "transfer data block body" but I think that also here
it can be replaced by<br>
>> "Transfer Frame Data Field".<br>
>> <br>
>> Regards<br>
>> <br>
>> Gian Paolo<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> From: Thomas Gannett
<[a:<a href="mailto:tomg@aiaa.org%5Dtomg@aiaa.org" eudora="autourl">
mailto:tomg@aiaa.org]tomg@aiaa.org</a>><br>
>> To:
<[a:mailto:takeuchi@isas.jaxa.jp]takeuchi@isas.jaxa.jp>,
<[a:<br>
>>
<a href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de%5DTomaso.deCola@dlr.de" eudora="autourl">
mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de]Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</a>>,<br>
>>
<[a:<a href="mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int%5DGian.Paolo" eudora="autourl">
mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int]Gian.Paolo</a>.<br>
>> Calzolari@esa.int>, "'Shames, Peter M (312G)'"<br>
>>
<[a:<a href="mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov%5Dpeter.m.shames@jpl.nasa" eudora="autourl">
mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov]peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa</a>.<br>
>> gov>,<br>
>> Date: 12/06/2015 23:05<br>
>> Subject: FW: Fwd: [Secretariat] [Cesg-all]
Results of CESG Polls closing <br>
>> 4<br>
>>
May 2015<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Dear ADs with Poll Conditions:<br>
>> <br>
>> Attached are three files, the two files originally attached to
the <br>
>> forwarded<br>
>> message below (with some minor translation),<br>
>>
- CCSDS_551_Section_2.3.2__15_05_07.doc, and<br>
>>
- CCSDS_Letter_to_Nestor_on_Orange_Book_15_05_07_rus.doc,<br>
>> along with a markup of the CESG Approval Copy incorporating the
changes<br>
>> proposed by Valery Vorontsov.<br>
>> <br>
>> At your earliest convenience, please respond to this message
with an<br>
>> indication of whether<br>
>> - the changes (along with the clarifications contained in the
"Letter to<br>
>> Nestor") satisfy your poll conditions, or<br>
>> - additional changes (and/or additional clarification) are
needed in order<br>
>> to satisfy your poll conditions.<br>
>> <br>
>> Best regards,<br>
>> Tom Gannett<br>
>> <br>
>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> From: $B'#'`'b'`'_'h'`'S(B $B'#'Q']'V'b'Z'[(B
[[a:<a href="mailto:a762642@yandex.ru%5Dmailto" eudora="autourl">
mailto:a762642@yandex.ru]mailto</a>:<br>
>> a762642@yandex.ru]<br>
>> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 6:40 AM<br>
>> To: Thomas Gannett<br>
>> Cc: Nestor Peccia;
[a:mailto:peter.shames@jpl.nasa.gov]peter.shames@jpl.<br>
>> nasa.gov;
[a:<a href="mailto:takeuchi@isas.jaxa.jp%5Dtakeuchi@isas.jaxa.jp" eudora="autourl">
mailto:takeuchi@isas.jaxa.jp]takeuchi@isas.jaxa.jp</a>;<br>
>[a:<a href="mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de" eudora="autourl">
mailto:Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de</a>]> Tomaso.deCola@dlr.de;
[a:mailto:Gian.Paolo.<br>
>Calzolari@esa.int] Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int; Marina
Gourtovaia<br>
>> Subject: Re: Fwd: [Secretariat] [Cesg-all] Results of CESG Polls
closing 4<br>
>> May 2015<br>
>> <br>
>> Dear Tom!<br>
>> <br>
>> Thank you very much for your kind willingness to advance the
Orange Book<br>
>> draft <Correlated Data Generation>.<br>
>> I have the same approach, that is: the conditions set forth by
the CESG<br>
>> opponents must be met. Specifically, the CESG polling materials
contain the<br>
>> proposal of what shall be done. I supported this proposal. I
wrote that in<br>
>> my message to Nestor (copy - to Marina). The file containing
this message <br>
>> is<br>
>> attached herein. I also attach a file with the proposed
correction for a <br>
>> new<br>
>> version of the Orange Book (a new version of section 2.3.2),
copies are <br>
>> also<br>
>> forwarded to Nestor and Marina.<br>
>> I shall appreciate any information you give me about the Orange
Book status<br>
>> (planned actions to advance it? Expected terms?). It will be
very helpful<br>
>> for planning my efforts and time.<br>
>> <br>
>> Thank you once again.<br>
>> <br>
>> All the best,<br>
>> Valery Vorontsov<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
><br>
>> > Dear Valery:<br>
><br>
>> <br>
><br>
>> > We have almost achieved CESG approval, but a couple of
conditions<br>
>> > need to be satisfied before I can submit the document to
the CCSDS<br>
>> > Management Council for authorization to publish. Aside form
the<br>
>> > typographical correction, which I will take care of, the
main<br>
>> > conditions concern the proposed option to modify the CCSDS
Transfer Frame.<br>
><br>
>> <br>
><br>
>> > I think the most efficient way to proceed is for you to
come to<br>
>> > agreement with the authors of the conditions and then to
give me<br>
>> > instructions on how to make the agreed changes in the
document.<br>
><br>
>> <br>
><br>
>> > Best regards,<br>
>> > Tom<br>
><br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> ><br>
>> > > CESG E-Poll Identifier: CESG-P-2015-04-002 Approval to
publish CCSDS<br>
>> > > 551.1-O-1, Correlated Data Generation (Orange Book,
Issue 1)<br>
>> > > Results of CESG poll beginning 20 April 2015 and
ending 4 May 2015:<br>
>> > > <br>
>> >
>
Abstain: 1 (12.5%) (Suess)<br>
>> > > Approve Unconditionally: 3 (37.5%)
(Merri, Behal, Barton)<br>
>> > > Approve with Conditions: 4 (50%)
(Shames, Takeuchi, Cola, Calzolari)<br>
>> > > Disapprove with Comment: 0 (0%)<br>
>> > > <br>
>> > > CONDITIONS/COMMENTS:<br>
>> > > <br>
>> > > Peter Shames (Approve with Conditions): I support the
conditions<br>
>> > > raised by the SEA DAD and other ADs. The inclusion of
modifications<br>
>> > > to the CCSDS space data link frame are really
unacceptable. I<br>
>> > > believe that the document should be modified to only
include the<br>
>> > > option that uses existing CCSDS data link features
such as the frame<br>
>> > > secondary header.<br>
>> > > <br>
>> > > Hiroshi Takeuchi (Approve with Conditions): 1. I think
there is an<br>
>> > > issue in Section 2.3.2.b:<br>
>> > > <br>
>> > > > b). The CCSDS Transfer Frame could be modified to
include a<br>
>> > > proprietary trailer<br>
>> > > > that would include the additional test data field
(figure 2-4).<br>
>> > > <br>
>> > > The concern is that by publishing even an Orange Book
that just says<br>
>> > > "modify the CCSDS Transfer Frame" we are in
some sense diminishing<br>
>> > > the importance of the CCSDS Transfer Frames and the
formal process<br>
>> > > we have for making any changes to them.<br>
>> > > I therefore request that the WG to remove the Section
2.3.2.b and 2.3.2.<br>
>> > > 2.<br>
>> > > <br>
>> > > 2. There is a minor error in the Section 4.1.2.3:<br>
>> > > For the purpose of of this discussion<br>
>> > > -><br>
>> > > For the purpose of this discussion<br>
>> > > <br>
>> > > Tomaso de Cola (Approve with Conditions): 1)
Implementation of the<br>
>> > > specified proposal requires important modifications to
the present<br>
>> > > definition of the TM transfer frame (see section
2.3.2), whereby<br>
>> > > interoperability issue with current CCSDS TM SDLP
protocol<br>
>> > > specification can arise.<br>
>> > > <br>
>> > > 2) Section 2.3.1 states that the aforementioned blocks
maybe TM<br>
>> > > transfer frames. Does it mean that the proposed
solution could be<br>
>> > > applied to other PDUs defined in the corresponding
CCSDS protocol stack<br>
>> ><br>
>> layers?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > > <br>
>> > > Gian Paolo Calzolari (Approve with Conditions): I
share the doubts<br>
>> > > about the TM Transfer Frame expressed by
colleagues.<br>
>> > > At the very least a clear remark stating e.g. some of
the proposed<br>
>> > > solutions are non standard and they will have to be
evaluated by<br>
>> > > pertinent WG's in case of an escalation effort for
this orange book<br>
>> > > towards the status of Recommended Standard.<br>
>> > > For the optional Test Data Field it may be more
realistic proposing<br>
>> > > it at the end of the Transfer Frame Data Field as
project specific<br>
>> ><br>
>> solution.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > > <br>
>> > > <br>
>> > > Total Respondents: 8<br>
>> > > No response was received from the following
Area(s):<br>
>> > > <br>
>> > > CSS<br>
>> > > <br>
>> > > SECRETARIAT INTERPRETATION OF RESULTS: Approved
with Conditions<br>
>> > > PROPOSED SECRETARIAT
ACTION:
Generate CMC poll after<br>
>> > > conditions have been addressed<br>
>> > > <br>
>> ><br>
>> <br>
><br>
>> > Thomas Gannett<br>
>> > +1 443 472 0805<br>
><br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> --<br>
>> $B'3(B $B'e'S'Q'X'V'_'Z'V'^(B,<br>
>>
$B'#'`'b'`'_'h'`'S(B
[a:mailto:a762642@yandex.ru]<br>
>>
<a href="mailto:a762642@yandex.ru" eudora="autourl">
mailto:a762642@yandex.ru</a><br>
>> [attachment "CCSDS_551_Section_2.3.2__15_05_07.doc"
deleted by Gian Paolo<br>
>> Calzolari/esoc/ESA] [attachment<br>
>>
"CCSDS_Letter_to_Nestor_on_Orange_Book_15_05_07_rus.doc"
deleted by Gian<br>
>> Paolo Calzolari/esoc/ESA] [attachment
"551x1o02_Post_CESG_Poll_markup.doc"<br>
>> deleted by Gian Paolo Calzolari/esoc/ESA]<br>
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