[Cesg-all] Results of CESG Polls closing 12 May 2022

CCSDS Secretariat thomas.gannett at tgannett.net
Fri May 13 21:31:11 UTC 2022


CESG E-Poll Identifier:  CESG-P-2022-04-001 
Approval to release CCSDS 901.3-R-1, Functional 
Resource Model (Red Book, Issue 1) for CCSDS Agency review

Results of CESG poll beginning 28 April 2022 and ending 12 May 2022:

                 Abstain:  0 (0%)
Approve Unconditionally:  2 (50%) (Barkley, Wilmot)
Approve with Conditions:  2 (50%) (Merri, Aguilar Sanchez)
Disapprove with Comment:  0 (0%)

CONDITIONS/COMMENTS:

     Mario Merri (Approve with Conditions):

1) Section 1.3 "Scope" states that the scope is 
limited to IOAG service cat 1 and 2.
Then Section 2.2.1 "FUNCTIONAL RESOURCES AS 
ABSTRACTIONS OF REAL RESOURCES" reads:
"FRs are abstract representations of the 
functionality needed to provide space 
communication and tracking services, defined at a 
level of granularity sufficient to specify the 
configuration parameters, monitored parameters, 
and notifiable events associated with that functionality.
FRs exist to represent such information as it 
applies to a cross support interface. If a 
processing function does not have unique 
monitored parameters, notifiable events, or any 
configuration parameters that need to be set 
(possibly through configuration profiles), 
queried, or reconfigured (via real-time control 
directives), then it does not have an FR to 
represent it. It should be noted that only one of 
these facets needs to be present in order for a 
function to need to be represented by an FR."

It should be clarified in the text that the FRs 
shall be limited to hw/sw that is immediately and 
directly related to communication and shall not 
be used for abstract representation of other 
devices onboard or on the ground, e.g. a Camera 
or a Gyro.... for such devices MO services should 
be the prime choice for abstract representation 
of the interface. This is consistent with the so called "London agreement".

2) It should be also clarified in the text 
(Section 1.3 Scope?) that, when it goes on-board 
even for the RF elements, the aspects of TM/TC 
and operations in general should be handled 
through MO M&C services rather than using FRM for 
monitored parameters, notifiable events, or any 
configuration of those devices. This is 
consistent with CCSDS 371.0-G-1 APPLICATION AND SUPPORT LAYER ARCHITECTURE

     Ignacio Aguilar Sanchez (Approve with Conditions):

Positively impressed with the organisation, depth 
and detail of this draft standard. Will review it 
carefully during Agency Review. Nevertheless, a 
couple of minor editorials (will not use the PID form):

-Ref [6]:  There is a very recent issue 4  (April 2022);

- Page 2-5, paragraph b): the terms 'channel 
bits' shall be replaced by 'symbols'; on the next 
sentence the term 'bits' shall be replaced by 'symbols';

- Page 2-5, paragraph c): the term 'bits' shall be replaced by 'symbols'.
     Jonathan Wilmot (Approve 
Unconditionally):  Document is really for agency 
review. May submit comments during agency review process.


Total Respondents:  4

No response was received from the following Area(s):

     SEA
     SIS



SECRETARIAT INTERPRETATION OF RESULTS:  Approved with Conditions
PROPOSED SECRETARIAT ACTION:            Generate 
CMC poll after conditions have been addressed

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CESG E-Poll Identifier:  CESG-P-2022-04-002 
Approval to publish CCSDS 141.10-O-1, Optical 
High Data Rate (HDR) Communication—1550 NM (Orange Book, Issue 1)

Results of CESG poll beginning 28 April 2022 and ending 12 May 2022:

                 Abstain:  2 (33.33%) (Merri, Duhaze)
Approve Unconditionally:  3 (50%) (Aguilar Sanchez, Moury, Wilmot)
Approve with Conditions:  1 (16.67%) (Barkley)
Disapprove with Comment:  0 (0%)

CONDITIONS/COMMENTS:

     Erik Barkley (Approve with Conditions):

I was unable to confirm good information re 
licensing of DVB-S2.  The document indicates "S2 
Licensing" with a US address and email address 
for obtaining a license.  Googling for S2 
licensing turns up a press release from 
2008.  There appears to be no DNS records for 
"S2licensing.com".  Googling the phone number 
listed in the document indicates it to be the 
office of "Bayside Law" with a different street 
address than listed in the document.  Further 
searching tends to indicate licensing being done 
via DTVG licensing (see 
https://www.sisvel.com/licensing-programs/digital-video-display-technology/dvb-s2/patent-owners) 
among others.

My request is that the information be checked -- 
my concern is that the CCSDS document, albeit 
experimintal, may not be providing correct 
information should an organization choose to implement this standard.


Total Respondents:  6

No response was received from the following Area(s):

     SEA
     SIS



SECRETARIAT INTERPRETATION OF RESULTS:  Approved with Conditions
PROPOSED SECRETARIAT ACTION:            Generate 
CMC poll after conditions have been addressed

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CESG E-Poll Identifier:  CESG-P-2022-04-003 
Approval to release CCSDS 504.0-P-1.1, Attitude 
Data Messages (, Issue 1.1) for CCSDS Agency review

Results of CESG poll beginning 28 April 2022 and ending 12 May 2022:

                 Abstain:  0 (0%)
Approve Unconditionally:  4 (80%) (Barkley, Merri, Duhaze, Wilmot)
Approve with Conditions:  1 (20%) (Aguilar Sanchez)
Disapprove with Comment:  0 (0%)

CONDITIONS/COMMENTS:

     Erik Barkley (Approve 
Unconditionally):   Minor commentary/question 
only -- the document looks good, quite ready for agency review.
I am curious if the Abstract Event Defintion 
(CCSDS 902.13-M-1) was considered for this version of the document.
     Ignacio Aguilar Sanchez (Approve with 
Conditions):  MInor editorial suggestion. 
Unfortunately, the upload of the corresponding 
PID file does not work for this reviewer. Hence, 
I am pasting the content of the PID file hereafter.

        CESG POLL ITEM DISPOSITION (PID) INITIATION FORM

AREA PID NUMBER:	SLS
SUBMITTING AREA: 	SLS
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REVIEWER'S NAME: 	I. AGUILAR SANCHEZ
E-MAIL ADDRESS:    	ignacio.aguilar.sanchez at esa.int
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DOCUMENT NUMBER:   CCSDS 504.0-P-1.0
DOCUMENT NAME:     Attitude Data Messages
DATE ISSUED:       April 2022
PAGE NUMBER:   D-1                PARAGRAPH NUMBER:  N/A
PID SHORT TITLE:   KVN acronym definition
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DESCRIPTION OF REQUESTED CHANGE:  (Use From: "..." To "..." format)

ANNEX D

From:

KVN Keyword = Value Notation

To:

KVN 'Keyword = Value' Notation



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CATEGORY OF REQUESTED CHANGE:
     Technical Fact ___    Recommended ___    Editorial _X_
NOTES:
TECHNICAL FACT:  Major technical change of sufficient magnitude as to
render the Recommendation inaccurate and unacceptable if not
corrected.  (Supporting analysis/rationale is essential.)
RECOMMENDED:  Change of a nature that would, if incorporated, produce
a marked improvement in document quality and acceptance.
EDITORIAL:  Typographical or other factual error needing correction.
(This type of change will be made without feedback to submitter.)
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SUPPORTING ANALYSIS:

The acronym is described in 6.7.1 as per proposed 
change ('Keyword = Value' Notation).
It seems the most accurate description found in the document.
The Publications Manual (5.3.3.6) requires 
agreement with the definition found in text.
However, it is unclear to this reviewer if such 
description is compatible with the Publications Manual.
Can the character ' be included in an acronym definition?
If possible, would suggest to change.



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DISPOSITION:




Total Respondents:  5

No response was received from the following Area(s):

     SEA
     SIS



SECRETARIAT INTERPRETATION OF RESULTS:  Approved with Conditions
PROPOSED SECRETARIAT ACTION:            Generate 
CMC poll after conditions have been addressed

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